M 5000 @ USAs: Fisher, Young . . . and Wolfe?

Fan Out West . . . wrote:

Just listened to LRC's weekly podcast.

All 4 agreed on Grant & Nico for 1-2.

Everyone agreed Graham is a strong candidate for the 3rd spot.

However, the discussion went off the rails when 3 of the 4 picked Parker Wolfe ahead of Graham. Even JG took the bait. (Wejo picked Hocker.)

Admire Parker tremendously.

However, picking a guy who ran a 3:34-mid for 2nd in a recent 1500 race after missing significant time this year due to injuries -- going up against Hocker, Teare and others who are much faster @ 1500 and have 5000 prs much faster than Parker's 13:10-high?

At least intern Tate finally mentioned Drew Hunter, the one runner outside of the Big-3 who has done nothing this year except set prs at all distances while winning his last 2 months of races.

Drew stated recently he crunched the math and realized his best chance for Tokyo was the 5000, thus scratching the 10,000 & 1500. The race on Sunday will be mid-day w/temps around 75-80 deg F so no 13:01 Tokyo Q. However, a 3rd place finish around 13:15 pr-vicinity plus a race or two in Europe before Aug 24th qual window deadline likely raises his WA points quota to within the top-42 max field and punches his ticket.

Agree with everyone: Grant & Nico, in some order, for 1-2. Assuming Nico doubles back in the 5000 which he has not confirmed. If no Nico, then Graham for 2nd or 3rd.

Then, from a pool of Graham, Cole, Cooper, Sam Gilman, and Drew -- not Parker, not on Sunday -- team member #3.

Nothingbutcrap wrote:

Fan Out West . . . wrote:

Just listened to LRC's weekly podcast.

All 4 agreed on Grant & Nico for 1-2.

Everyone agreed Graham is a strong candidate for the 3rd spot.

However, the discussion went off the rails when 3 of the 4 picked Parker Wolfe ahead of Graham. Even JG took the bait. (Wejo picked Hocker.)

Admire Parker tremendously.

However, picking a guy who ran a 3:34-mid for 2nd in a recent 1500 race after missing significant time this year due to injuries -- going up against Hocker, Teare and others who are much faster @ 1500 and have 5000 prs much faster than Parker's 13:10-high?

At least intern Tate finally mentioned Drew Hunter, the one runner outside of the Big-3 who has done nothing this year except set prs at all distances while winning his last 2 months of races.

Drew stated recently he crunched the math and realized his best chance for Tokyo was the 5000, thus scratching the 10,000 & 1500. The race on Sunday will be mid-day w/temps around 75-80 deg F so no 13:01 Tokyo Q. However, a 3rd place finish around 13:15 pr-vicinity plus a race or two in Europe before Aug 24th qual window deadline likely raises his WA points quota to within the top-42 max field and punches his ticket.

Agree with everyone: Grant & Nico, in some order, for 1-2. Assuming Nico doubles back in the 5000 which he has not confirmed. If no Nico, then Graham for 2nd or 3rd.

Then, from a pool of Graham, Cole, Cooper, Sam Gilman, and Drew -- not Parker, not on Sunday -- team member #3.

2 things

- thought the same re Hunter. anyone doubling back is weakend and he is a fighter. he picks up the spot

-more important. I wonder if the big three did some analysis of 10k versus 5k at world champs, and which they could be more competitive in. I think it’s the 5k. Ethiopian team is named. bag the 10 and focus on the 5k.

this 3 day turn around at USAs means at least one of them will not make both teams.

easier wrote:

Lanajakalammardqjoappann wrote:

If Nico makes the 10k team Thursday he IS still running the 5k. Thats a fact. The bigger question would be if he makes both teams, would he run the 10k at Worlds. He knows he has a legit chance in the 5k to contend in Japan this year. In the 5k, it going to be very very tough for anyone outside of the 5 with the world standard to make the team. its going to be almost impossible to chase points as the top three here are all ranked in the top 12 in the world. The other option would be to go sub 13:01 and that will be tough finding a race that fast with DL meets pretty much filled with guys needing points to make the final in Zurich.

They'd get displaced by the person who finished 3rd...and he can chase the time until august 24

Fan Out West . . . wrote:

Just listened to LRC's weekly podcast.

All 4 agreed on Grant & Nico for 1-2.

Everyone agreed Graham is a strong candidate for the 3rd spot.

However, the discussion went off the rails when 3 of the 4 picked Parker Wolfe ahead of Graham. Even JG took the bait. (Wejo picked Hocker.)

Admire Parker tremendously.

However, picking a guy who ran a 3:34-mid for 2nd in a recent 1500 race after missing significant time this year due to injuries -- going up against Hocker, Teare and others who are much faster @ 1500 and have 5000 prs much faster than Parker's 13:10-high?

At least intern Tate finally mentioned Drew Hunter, the one runner outside of the Big-3 who has done nothing this year except set prs at all distances while winning his last 2 months of races.

Drew stated recently he crunched the math and realized his best chance for Tokyo was the 5000, thus scratching the 10,000 & 1500. The race on Sunday will be mid-day w/temps around 75-80 deg F so no 13:01 Tokyo Q. However, a 3rd place finish around 13:15 pr-vicinity plus a race or two in Europe before Aug 24th qual window deadline likely raises his WA points quota to within the top-42 max field and punches his ticket.

Agree with everyone: Grant & Nico, in some order, for 1-2. Assuming Nico doubles back in the 5000 which he has not confirmed. If no Nico, then Graham for 2nd or 3rd.

Then, from a pool of Graham, Cole, Cooper, Sam Gilman, and Drew -- not Parker, not on Sunday -- team member #3.

Fanouteast wrote:

Fan Out West . . . wrote:

Just listened to LRC's weekly podcast.

All 4 agreed on Grant & Nico for 1-2.

Everyone agreed Graham is a strong candidate for the 3rd spot.

However, the discussion went off the rails when 3 of the 4 picked Parker Wolfe ahead of Graham. Even JG took the bait. (Wejo picked Hocker.)

Admire Parker tremendously.

However, picking a guy who ran a 3:34-mid for 2nd in a recent 1500 race after missing significant time this year due to injuries -- going up against Hocker, Teare and others who are much faster @ 1500 and have 5000 prs much faster than Parker's 13:10-high?

At least intern Tate finally mentioned Drew Hunter, the one runner outside of the Big-3 who has done nothing this year except set prs at all distances while winning his last 2 months of races.

Drew stated recently he crunched the math and realized his best chance for Tokyo was the 5000, thus scratching the 10,000 & 1500. The race on Sunday will be mid-day w/temps around 75-80 deg F so no 13:01 Tokyo Q. However, a 3rd place finish around 13:15 pr-vicinity plus a race or two in Europe before Aug 24th qual window deadline likely raises his WA points quota to within the top-42 max field and punches his ticket.

Agree with everyone: Grant & Nico, in some order, for 1-2. Assuming Nico doubles back in the 5000 which he has not confirmed. If no Nico, then Graham for 2nd or 3rd.

Then, from a pool of Graham, Cole, Cooper, Sam Gilman, and Drew -- not Parker, not on Sunday -- team member #3.

I chuckle every time people sleep on Blanks (and sense he does too). I suspect he has been specifically working on his kick all summer, will be interesting to see how it holds up this weekend.