On strava I came across someone in my local area who is in the 68-70 age bracket (not sure of his exact age) and he is doing regular training with a 19 5k and 39 10k. I didn't do much digging as I couldn't be bothered but in his pictures he looks even older than his age.
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i was shocked wrote:
On strava I came across someone in my local area who is in the 68-70 age bracket (not sure of his exact age) and he is doing regular training with a 19 5k and 39 10k. I didn't do much digging as I couldn't be bothered but in his pictures he looks even older than his age.
That is a great time if legit.
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It's good but not quite world class.
66 year old Alastair Walker ran a 5k in 16:36.
71 year old Eddy Vierendeels ran a 5k in 18:09.
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If he's 70 and running 19 flat in races, yes, that's world class. If he's 68 and running 19:59, that's really impressive but maybe not quite world class. For comparison, at last year's USATF masters 5K championships (in Atlanta, so probably a hilly course), the top three men's 70-74 times were 19:30, 19:43, and 20:19. The top five men's 65-69 times were 17:53, 18:24, 18:55, 19:54, and 20:09, though the first four were all ages 66 or 67. If his Strava times are on training runs as opposed to races, it seems likely that he could go faster in races and so is in fact world class. I suppose you don't want to give his name, but if you say what city he lives in (unless it's NYC or LA), I expect someone in the over-50 thread would know who he is, as there can't be that many old guys in the country who are that fast.
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i was shocked wrote:
On strava I came across someone in my local area who is in the 68-70 age bracket (not sure of his exact age) and he is doing regular training with a 19 5k and 39 10k. I didn't do much digging as I couldn't be bothered but in his pictures he looks even older than his age.
Hardly Ed Whitlock ran 14:25 and 29:15 for 5 and 10k at age 70! I think Fujah Singh broke 3:00 for the Marathon at 100 or something.
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Extremely impressive if 70. Very impressive if 68. Every year is a big deal at that age. What’s the name? It’d be easy enough to see the age by looking up race results.
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JamesD2 wrote:
If he's 70 and running 19 flat in races, yes, that's world class. If he's 68 and running 19:59, that's really impressive but maybe not quite world class. For comparison, at last year's USATF masters 5K championships (in Atlanta, so probably a hilly course), the top three men's 70-74 times were 19:30, 19:43, and 20:19. The top five men's 65-69 times were 17:53, 18:24, 18:55, 19:54, and 20:09, though the first four were all ages 66 or 67. If his Strava times are on training runs as opposed to races, it seems likely that he could go faster in races and so is in fact world class. I suppose you don't want to give his name, but if you say what city he lives in (unless it's NYC or LA), I expect someone in the over-50 thread would know who he is, as there can't be that many old guys in the country who are that fast.
The first place guy at 19:30 turned out to be a CHEATER so you can disregard any of his times. He is currently serving a 3 year ban because he fessed up. Can you imagine a retired college professor cheating like this?
Second and third are legitimate.
There are at least 2 new 70 guys who can run 19’s, maybe even 18’s in the US. Always someone new coming into this AG.
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i was shocked wrote:
On strava I came across someone in my local area who is in the 68-70 age bracket (not sure of his exact age) and he is doing regular training with a 19 5k and 39 10k. I didn't do much digging as I couldn't be bothered but in his pictures he looks even older than his age.
If the guy is actually 70 then you probably live in either WA or MA, most likely.
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Dr Doom wrote:
i was shocked wrote:
On strava I came across someone in my local area who is in the 68-70 age bracket (not sure of his exact age) and he is doing regular training with a 19 5k and 39 10k. I didn't do much digging as I couldn't be bothered but in his pictures he looks even older than his age.
If the guy is actually 70 then you probably live in either WA or MA, most likely.
I forgot: or in PA.
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Whitlock's records were not carbon spring shoe aided
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Not impressive! wrote:
i was shocked wrote:
On strava I came across someone in my local area who is in the 68-70 age bracket (not sure of his exact age) and he is doing regular training with a 19 5k and 39 10k. I didn't do much digging as I couldn't be bothered but in his pictures he looks even older than his age.
Hardly Ed Whitlock ran 14:25 and 29:15 for 5 and 10k at age 70! I think Fujah Singh broke 3:00 for the Marathon at 100 or something.
What's your source for those times? A 2016 Runner's World article by Amby Burfoot cites Ken Young of the Association of Road Racing Statisticians as saying Whitlock had (at that time) the following age world records for the 5K:
65 - 17:24
66 - 17:24
67 - 17:23
68 - 17:39
69 - 17:34
72 - 18:32
73 - 18:21
74 - 19:05
75 - 18:45Still ridiculously fast for those ages, and faster than the 19ish that OP is citing for the person he sees on Strava, but nothing like a 14:25. Also, I seriously doubt any 100-year-old has broken 3 for the full.
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Not impressive! wrote:
i was shocked wrote:
On strava I came across someone in my local area who is in the 68-70 age bracket (not sure of his exact age) and he is doing regular training with a 19 5k and 39 10k. I didn't do much digging as I couldn't be bothered but in his pictures he looks even older than his age.
Hardly Ed Whitlock ran 14:25 and 29:15 for 5 and 10k at age 70! I think Fujah Singh broke 3:00 for the Marathon at 100 or something.
Wow, and Ed did that before super shoes too. One might have thought he would have been accused of age cheating. You wonder what he could have done in his prime. Those records may last for some time. Ed could have been a scoring member of a good NCAA cross country team at age 70, maybe at BYU, although he might not have been quite good enough.
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Here's the article:
Whitlock died less than five months after it was written.
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JamesD2 wrote:
Not impressive! wrote:
Hardly Ed Whitlock ran 14:25 and 29:15 for 5 and 10k at age 70! I think Fujah Singh broke 3:00 for the Marathon at 100 or something.
What's your source for those times? A 2016 Runner's World article by Amby Burfoot cites Ken Young of the Association of Road Racing Statisticians as saying Whitlock had (at that time) the following age world records for the 5K:
65 - 17:24
66 - 17:24
67 - 17:23
68 - 17:39
69 - 17:34
72 - 18:32
73 - 18:21
74 - 19:05
75 - 18:45Still ridiculously fast for those ages, and faster than the 19ish that OP is citing for the person he sees on Strava, but nothing like a 14:25. Also, I seriously doubt any 100-year-old has broken 3 for the full.
James, James, James.
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Not impressive! wrote:
Hardly Ed Whitlock ran 14:25 and 29:15 for 5 and 10k at age 70! I think Fujah Singh broke 3:00 for the Marathon at 100 or something.
These are not real times by Ed. Ignore this guy and his post.
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Good not great wrote:
It's good but not quite world class.
66 year old Alastair Walker ran a 5k in 16:36.
71 year old Eddy Vierendeels ran a 5k in 18:09.
19:00 is by definition world class at 91.93% age graded. 19:30 doesn't quite cut it at at 89.57%.
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Most likely the guy is riding a bike and incorrectly posting it on Strava as a run.
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Very few 70 year olds run under 19 each year. 19-20 is a little more common but with that you can still be competitive at any level, including national and world masters championships.
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Whitlock ran a 2:54 at I believe 74. Not sure what equivalent 5k time that is.
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I'm in my late 40, and I'm still running 15 mins. I first broke 16 in mid-20s and never have broken 15 (though close at one point). I don't think another 20-ish years of aging would slow me down by more than 4 mins and I'm hardly world-class. In fact, lots of women can beat me. lol. It may be world-class for a 70 years old female though.
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