U.S. marathon runner Emma Bates has spoken out after Ruth Chepngetich, who beat her at the 2021 Chicago Marathon, was provisionally suspended after testing positive for a banned substance.
According to Christopher Kelsall, the busts are coming so fast that "soon, the country will be reduced to recruiting former Kenyans who now run for Bahrain and elsewhere".
I think one of the biggest problems is that the standards for Q's to Worlds, etc are including these drug fueled performances. That just further gives people incentive to join the fray.
Although she is not wrong, where were these outspoken Americans when Shelby was busted? And I don't mean signing that one petition, why didn't they publicly speak out like this?
Although she is not wrong, where were these outspoken Americans when Shelby was busted? And I don't mean signing that one petition, why didn't they publicly speak out like this?
Sorry but it's hypocritical.
Emma Bates is a marathoner speaking out against the marathoner she finished in second place behind in Chicago. Emma is speaking out against the doper who robbed her of a marathon win.
Why would Emma speak out against a middle distance runner? A middle distance runner has nothing to do with Emma.
Didn't read the article but let me guess Emma said training has been going great and she feels at her next marathon 2;18 or faster is definitely going to happen (faster forward to her fall marathon she DNS or runs 2:24)
"According to Christopher Kelsall, the busts are coming so fast that "soon, the country will be reduced to recruiting former Kenyans who now run for Bahrain and elsewhere"."
You and that guy have a lot in common, starting with your low IQ.
Didn't read the article but let me guess Emma said training has been going great and she feels at her next marathon 2;18 or faster is definitely going to happen (faster forward to her fall marathon she DNS or runs 2:24)
(1) Technically, Emma is right, but she finished 15 minutes behind Ruth. Even if Ruth wasn't doping and Emma was, Emma would still have lost to her by a significant margin.
This would be like me, with a 270 FTP, being mad at Lance Armstrong for doping. Like yeah, I'm right, but Lance and I are in completely different worlds of talent and performance.
(2) Emma still hasn't moved past the fact that she was the hot athletic girl in high school and college who got all the praise and attention for being the hot athletic "Big Fish in a small pod. She's hanging onto this for dear life.
Although she is not wrong, where were these outspoken Americans when Shelby was busted? And I don't mean signing that one petition, why didn't they publicly speak out like this?
Sorry but it's hypocritical.
There are no masses of female kenyan runners speaking out about specific kenyan cases like Chepngetich- only some cursory words from Kipchoge months ago. It's the same thing.
Didn't read the article but let me guess Emma said training has been going great and she feels at her next marathon 2;18 or faster is definitely going to happen (faster forward to her fall marathon she DNS or runs 2:24)
We are in 2:18 shape.
We would have set the AR if not for pesky Kenyans like Chepngetich!
I think one of the biggest problems is that the standards for Q's to Worlds, etc are including these drug fueled performances. That just further gives people incentive to join the fray.
This! I’ve been saying this since the last Olympic cycle. The Kenya numbers, both finishing times and the number of men running them, have wrecked the curve in terms of the world thinking what a decent marathon time is. The insanity of having an Olympic qualification time faster than all but 6 nation’s national records is just…. Indefensible.
The point of the Olympics is to compete, and, even with plated modern shoes, a country’s 2:08 marathoner should absolutely be competing. 2:06 is just wrong. But I understand, the Kenyan doping of already potentially world class athletes has made us numb to endless waves of 2:02 and 2:03 performances in Valencia and London and Doha.
I think one of the biggest problems is that the standards for Q's to Worlds, etc are including these drug fueled performances. That just further gives people incentive to join the fray.
This! I’ve been saying this since the last Olympic cycle. The Kenya numbers, both finishing times and the number of men running them, have wrecked the curve in terms of the world thinking what a decent marathon time is. The insanity of having an Olympic qualification time faster than all but 6 nation’s national records is just…. Indefensible.
The point of the Olympics is to compete, and, even with plated modern shoes, a country’s 2:08 marathoner should absolutely be competing. 2:06 is just wrong. But I understand, the Kenyan doping of already potentially world class athletes has made us numb to endless waves of 2:02 and 2:03 performances in Valencia and London and Doha.
Sorry, this is the streaming video age and nobody in the audience cares about or is tuning-in to see a 2:08 guy from Carjackistan finish midpack. He'll be on-screen for about 2 minutes, unless he manages to take out a favorite at a water table or finish DFL in spectacular fashion.
Although she is not wrong, where were these outspoken Americans when Shelby was busted? And I don't mean signing that one petition, why didn't they publicly speak out like this?
Sorry but it's hypocritical.
Emma Bates is a marathoner speaking out against the marathoner she finished in second place behind in Chicago. Emma is speaking out against the doper who robbed her of a marathon win.
Why would Emma speak out against a middle distance runner? A middle distance runner has nothing to do with Emma.
You guys can't wait to go back in history and take dopers wins away 🤣 every time. All I'm going to say is at the time they're passing the same tests as everyone else. Some of Emma Bates best friends probably are doping to for all we know In the 2025 pro scene.
Wonder if any American pros were this vocal about Galen rupp competing most of his career with a literal doping coach. Wonder if any pros have made comments about rupp and kipchoge shoes in Rio? Or do they only boldly speak out if it's Russia or Kenya?
I actually do think Emma is clean but only because I don't think she has the resources to dope
