Both of them claimed to be out to save track. Both got a little bit ahead of themselves. Both of them still have defenders. Both of them also have vicious critics. Both of them will have to deal with lawsuits. Both of them created a black eye on our sport.
Both of them claimed to be out to save track. Both got a little bit ahead of themselves. Both of them still have defenders. Both of them also have vicious critics. Both of them will have to deal with lawsuits. Both of them created a black eye on our sport.
NOP was never out to “save our sport”. They were established to win American medals. That’s it. End of story.
I believe that they started with the intention of saving American distance running and make Americans competitive on the World Stage. I do agree with you and it became a marketing machine that was only out to win medals for any country. They lost their way. So did GST
don't get pissy-anty over people failing like Track Town USA did at World 2022 and Oly Trials 2024, GST, NOP, WA, DL, USATF, NCAAT&F, Sound Runnign ATL, DyeStat, FloTrack, Citius Mag and so on. we have a cheap sport with stingy fans who make us all look foolish, myself included. Welcome to the T&F Ship of Fools.
don't get pissy-anty over people failing like Track Town USA did at World 2022 and Oly Trials 2024, GST, NOP, WA, DL, USATF, NCAAT&F, Sound Runnign ATL, DyeStat, FloTrack, Citius Mag and so on. we have a cheap sport with stingy fans who make us all look foolish, myself included. Welcome to the T&F Ship of Fools.
Both of them claimed to be out to save track. Both got a little bit ahead of themselves. Both of them still have defenders. Both of them also have vicious critics. Both of them will have to deal with lawsuits. Both of them created a black eye on our sport.
It’s disappointing, honestly. Both started out claiming they’d help the sport, but ended up hurting it. Now there’s drama, lawsuits, and a mess that overshadows the track itself. It’s frustrating as a fan.
NOP was wildly successful. I mean until the coach and doctor both got banned for trafficking in PEDs. But apart from that, you can't argue with their success.
NOP was wildly successful. I mean until the coach and doctor both got banned for trafficking in PEDs. But apart from that, you can't argue with their success.
NOP was wildly successful. I mean until the coach and doctor both got banned for trafficking in PEDs. But apart from that, you can't argue with their success.
So do you believe that NOP was more successful in its mission than GST was in theirs?
I don’t have a strong opinion either way. I just believe they both did more harm than good.
NOP was wildly successful. I mean until the coach and doctor both got banned for trafficking in PEDs. But apart from that, you can't argue with their success.
So do you believe that NOP was more successful in its mission than GST was in theirs?
I don’t have a strong opinion either way. I just believe they both did more harm than good.
What could GST have done for the season to not have been a failure? It seems to me that it proved that you can’t go big-time with a niche sport.
NOP was wildly successful. I mean until the coach and doctor both got banned for trafficking in PEDs. But apart from that, you can't argue with their success.
What doctor was banned?
Dr. Brown. But ya, wildly successful for many years, with several global medals, including Olympic Gold for an American runner. No comparison to GST.
Both of them claimed to be out to save track. Both got a little bit ahead of themselves. Both of them still have defenders. Both of them also have vicious critics. Both of them will have to deal with lawsuits. Both of them created a black eye on our sport.
Apples and Oranges!
Two completely different scenarios. GST was and still claims to be "Saving Track and Field", while at the same time trying to create an alternate world track league to challenge the Diamond League. My comparison is to that of LIV Golf. Throw out a bunch of money to lure the best athletes while trying to reinvent the event experience. Not a bad concept. The only difference is that LIV has a competent management group with deep pockets and "Real Money", and can actually pay their athletes and deliver a quality product to their sponsors and investors. GST is poorly managed and is cash poor, with athletes, investors and sponsors breathing down their necks. NOP never claimed to try and "save" track and field. Alberto just wanted to put together a club of talented middle/long distance runners that could compete on the world stage. There was never a business model and or investors (except Nike) to be indebted to.
NOP was wildly successful. I mean until the coach and doctor both got banned for trafficking in PEDs. But apart from that, you can't argue with their success.
So do you believe that NOP was more successful in its mission than GST was in theirs?
I don’t have a strong opinion either way. I just believe they both did more harm than good.
NOP was WAY more successful. They helped America earn its first Men's 1500 Olympic Gold in over 100 years and helped develop Galen Rupp who is in the conversation for best American distance runners of the 21st century. GST had a few kinda fun meets in front of half-full stadiums.
Dr. Brown. But ya, wildly successful for many years, with several global medals, including Olympic Gold for an American runner. No comparison to GST.
I see who you’re referring to now- banned by USADA- Jeff Brown out of Houston. I had forgotten about him being a part of the L-carnitine infusions and the testosterone fiasco.