Surprised no one thinks this is possible. Even without Jakob in the race, he just needs someone to try to push the third lap, or maybe he can even do it himself. How far is the rabbit taking them?
3:43 two full years ago. Obviously he was pulled the whole time by Jakob, but I think he has the fitness to do it. 3:46i as well as his recent 1:44.
Surprised no one thinks this is possible. Even without Jakob in the race, he just needs someone to try to push the third lap, or maybe he can even do it himself. How far is the rabbit taking them?
3:43 two full years ago. Obviously he was pulled the whole time by Jakob, but I think he has the fitness to do it. 3:46i as well as his recent 1:44.
If someone ran well in the December 2023 BU meet and then ran well in a January BU or February millrose meet in 2025, would you say it was 2 years apart?
Surprised no one thinks this is possible. Even without Jakob in the race, he just needs someone to try to push the third lap, or maybe he can even do it himself. How far is the rabbit taking them?
3:43 two full years ago. Obviously he was pulled the whole time by Jakob, but I think he has the fitness to do it. 3:46i as well as his recent 1:44.
Jeez. Now we have “full” years.
Inaccurate, too. It was September 16th 2023, which is less than two full years ago.
If someone ran well in the December 2023 BU meet and then ran well in a January BU or February millrose meet in 2025, would you say it was 2 years apart?
December and February are close enough and I would say “2 years”. Nuguse’s 3:44 (rounding .97) was run in September anyway, so it wasn’t 2 full years.
For the sake of the sport, I would love for El Guerrouj's mile record to finally be broken, but there are a few things working against it.
1) The race is in the middle of the day. AccuWeather forecast says high of 84F with UV index of 10. 8mph winds from the north with 22mph gusts. 8mph isn't too bad, but I'd be concerned about those gusts.
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2) Only one pacer listed on DL website - Abe Alvarado, who also paced the 2024 Bowerman Mile. For an attempt at a legendary record like 3:43.13 you should have at least 2 pacers, if not 3. I doubt Alvarado could get Nuguse to 1200m at WR pace. Ritz did say he wants the pace thru 800 to be 1:50. Alvarado could definitely do that, but probably could only get 100-200m further. That would leave Nuguse front-running the final 600-700m. Jakob front-ran the final 700 in 2023 to run 3:43.73, but he is a stronger athlete than Nuguse.
3) If Nuguse's priority is to win, then he won't risk going all out for a WR if it means a chance of losing. There will be a lot of strong guys right behind him - Hocker, Kessler, Habz, Laros, etc that could easily outkick him at the end.
All in all, I say the most likely outcome is a 3:44-3:45 winning time if conditions allow for it. If it's poor conditions, 3:46-3:47.
For the sake of the sport, I would love for El Guerrouj's mile record to finally be broken, but there are a few things working against it.
1) The race is in the middle of the day. AccuWeather forecast says high of 84F with UV index of 10. 8mph winds from the north with 22mph gusts. 8mph isn't too bad, but I'd be concerned about those gusts.
2) Only one pacer listed on DL website - Abe Alvarado, who also paced the 2024 Bowerman Mile. For an attempt at a legendary record like 3:43.13 you should have at least 2 pacers, if not 3. I doubt Alvarado could get Nuguse to 1200m at WR pace. Ritz did say he wants the pace thru 800 to be 1:50. Alvarado could definitely do that, but probably could only get 100-200m further. That would leave Nuguse front-running the final 600-700m. Jakob front-ran the final 700 in 2023 to run 3:43.73, but he is a stronger athlete than Nuguse.
3) If Nuguse's priority is to win, then he won't risk going all out for a WR if it means a chance of losing. There will be a lot of strong guys right behind him - Hocker, Kessler, Habz, Laros, etc that could easily outkick him at the end.
All in all, I say the most likely outcome is a 3:44-3:45 winning time if conditions allow for it. If it's poor conditions, 3:46-3:47.
83 degrees with minimal humidity won’t make a difference. Hopefully, the wind, won’t be a factor down the track.
Surprised no one thinks this is possible. Even without Jakob in the race, he just needs someone to try to push the third lap, or maybe he can even do it himself. How far is the rabbit taking them?
3:43 two full years ago. Obviously he was pulled the whole time by Jakob, but I think he has the fitness to do it. 3:46i as well as his recent 1:44.
You’ll have to remember that 3’43 was in September.
If someone ran well in the December 2023 BU meet and then ran well in a January BU or February millrose meet in 2025, would you say it was 2 years apart?
December and February are close enough and I would say “2 years”. Nuguse’s 3:44 (rounding .97) was run in September anyway, so it wasn’t 2 full years.
December and February are close enough and I would say “2 years”. Nuguse’s 3:44 (rounding .97) was run in September anyway, so it wasn’t 2 full years.
That’s 10-11 months short of 2 years.
"Kickers usually win" is probably the densest poster on here. I believe he used to post as SDSU Aztec - either that or he has the exact same gene that makes you dense and annoying. Like who has a problem with saying "full years"? Extremely dense people that's who.
Nuguse is one of the more obvious dopers. At least Hocker was winning at the NCAA level. Sheesh.
WHEREABOUTS has Nuguse been putting in all this awesome training? Not that I would ever bring up certain athletes who seem to get off, no problem, no mater the “mistakes”. I don’t want to Gabby… er, gab about them.
