Owen Powell in the International Men's Mile at Pre - Does he break Webb's Record of 3:53.41?

The field will be better than his 3:36

we just don’t know if he’s already peaked because he’s been racing for a while

He didn't run nationals, so I think he should be ready to roll

He got his sharpness with the fast 800s. Also ran an 8:38 solo(probably not all out). With those I think he can break it if he just stays close to the collegians.

3:53.43

Don't think he gets it but goes UNDER 3:55.00

Hell No! Lukenhaus schooled him and he had people who could have dragged him to 3:35 in the 1500 he ran. He ran great both times, but not Alan Webb great.

Genuine question, it’s July and the high school nationals are all over, how long out of high school does still count as a national record?

yes I think he will get it.

Until August

Thank you

People forget how much of an outlier Webb's Pre mile was. It was a huge improvement for him. How do Powell's p.r.s pre-Pre compare to Webb's?

3:36 1500

He’s close

I think he gets it. He'll have an escort the whole way and very good conditions Saturday.

He actually just had his HS graduation last week. Things roll much later up in Washington State.

Good question

Off the top of my head:

Webb:

1:47.7x

3:59i

8:48i (closed hard the last mile from what I remember)

Powell:

1:46.63

3:56i

8:38 (run solo after a 1600 and 800)

However, I feel that this represents an incomplete picture of Webb. He had at least 1 sub-4 1600 DMR leg that spring, a 47.7 4x400 leg at his state meet, at least one 1:49 4x800 leg and a 4:01 mile at Arcadia, back when those times were all FAST. He was beating the wheels off the best runners in the nation, and given his XC pedigree, I have to imagine he could have run into the low 8:30s had he actually taken a serious swing at the event.

That said, Powell is a heck of a talent. I think he has a 3:52 in him - that 1:46.6 told me everything I really need to know. The bigger question is if he can execute properly on Saturday, which i'm not quite sure of. He's racing some damn good people, and I question if he has the ability to balance the possibility of a fast pace with the potential for a tactical race - if he goes out in 60 point, that kinda sinks any record attempt. Despite the maturity he has shown, he is after all, still a high schooler.

You are missing Powell's recent 3:36 1500, which also gets him in the ballbark.

no

Webb's splits were something like:

58.1

1:57.9(59.8)

2:58.4(60.5)

3:53.43(55.0)

My bet is, if there is a pacer(s) for the international mile, Powell gets the record. If there aren't pacers, then he doesn't get it.

Prior to the 1:46.6 against Lutkenhaus and the array of sub-3:30s in Paris, I would have picked against Owen Powell getting Webb's record. Not any more. While Webb for sure wasn't capped in his 1:47.7 relay 8 or his 8:45 jog win over Brannen indoors, Powell is going to get a much quicker and deeper Pre field to follow (even if he's only in heat two) than Webb had, wavelight keeping the pace extremely even--and probably even set with a color for the high school record pace--the magic shoes that already helped him to 3:36, an 8:38 2M pr, 7 seconds faster than Webb, in which most of the work was done in the last lap, and a 1:46.6 800m pr, close to the old record and 1.1s faster than Webb ran. We've also seen some amazing times from 16-18 year old Western prodigies in the past few years that have really raised the bar. We know that his coach and his parents will have him ready for this. I predict he crushes the record: 3:51.7.