Where did teen phenom Phanuel Koech, who just ran 3:27 in the 2nd 1500 of his life, come from? Jonathan Gault tells you

eagleeye wrote:

Worth noting that Kwemoi never ran under 3:30 again, as far as I can tell:

Link:worldathletics.org/athletes/kenya/rona...

For the sake of the sport, I hope Koech is clean and that he can keep running fast times. Nothing better than more guys in the mix close to the WR! Of course it's suspicious how quickly he came onto the scene.

Cmon Man wrote:

The answer to “Where did he come from?” is doping. Sorry to anyone who thinks otherwise. You can be as naive as you please but once testing ramps up around Worlds this guy will disappear.

Anyone who thinks he’s actually 18 is naive too - but that’s another point entirely.

no____deal wrote:

Cmon Man wrote:

The answer to “Where did he come from?” is doping. Sorry to anyone who thinks otherwise. You can be as naive as you please but once testing ramps up around Worlds this guy will disappear.

Anyone who thinks he’s actually 18 is naive too - but that’s another point entirely.

Dope yourself to 3:27. Or at least find an unknown runner, you can dope to a 3:27 on his second race. Then we can talk.

uu.uuu wrote:

no____deal wrote:

Dope yourself to 3:27. Or at least find an unknown runner, you can dope to a 3:27 on his second race. Then we can talk.

I think you're all missing the point.

Whether the 'everyone is doping' and 'supershoes ruined the sport' and 'age cheat' arguments are true or not, Phanuel is still the biggest talent EVER, right? Untrained and new to the 1500, soloing a 3:32 and then running 3:27 in his second race ever... that's something even a top 20 (maybe top 10) 1500 guy couldn't do if you put him on every substance known to man.

Cmon Man wrote:

The answer to “Where did he come from?” is doping. Sorry to anyone who thinks otherwise. You can be as naive as you please but once testing ramps up around Worlds this guy will disappear.

Anyone who thinks he’s actually 18 is naive too - but that’s another point entirely.

uu.uuu wrote:

no____deal wrote:

Dope yourself to 3:27. Or at least find an unknown runner, you can dope to a 3:27 on his second race. Then we can talk.

I think you're all missing the point.

Whether the 'everyone is doping' and 'supershoes ruined the sport' and 'age cheat' arguments are true or not, Phanuel is still the biggest talent EVER, right? Untrained and new to the 1500, soloing a 3:32 and then running 3:27 in his second race ever... that's something even a top 20 (maybe top 10) 1500 guy couldn't do if you put him on every substance known to man.

MRIscan wrote:

Please have his entire body go through an MRI scan to determine true age.

hmmmmmmm wrote:

Woah, another incredibly young runner from Kenya runs an absurdly fast time! Surely he is actually a teenager who is simply too naive and innocent to dabble in “illegal substances”

LetsRun.com wrote:

Our latest SC feature is out. Enjoy.

Link:www.letsrun.com/news/2025/06/327-out-o...

PS. I know on an earlier thread some people were skeptical that he ran 3:27 in his 2nd only 1500 of his life . Surely he must have run them in local meets, before? Nope.

JG wrote:

On June 8, Koech raced his first 1500 at Meeting Internazionale Città di Lucca, a World Athletics Continental Tour Challenger event. As far as Lilot knows, Lucca really was Koech's first 1500-meter race -- ever. Lilot even asked his high school coach, who said Koech ran the 800, 3000, and cross country while at St. Francis Kimuron, but never a 1500.

uu.uuu wrote:

no____deal wrote:

Dope yourself to 3:27. Or at least find an unknown runner, you can dope to a 3:27 on his second race. Then we can talk.

I think you're all missing the point.

Whether the 'everyone is doping' and 'supershoes ruined the sport' and 'age cheat' arguments are true or not, Phanuel is still the biggest talent EVER, right? Untrained and new to the 1500, soloing a 3:32 and then running 3:27 in his second race ever... that's something even a top 20 (maybe top 10) 1500 guy couldn't do if you put him on every substance known to man.

no____deal wrote:

Cmon Man wrote:

The answer to “Where did he come from?” is doping. Sorry to anyone who thinks otherwise. You can be as naive as you please but once testing ramps up around Worlds this guy will disappear.

Anyone who thinks he’s actually 18 is naive too - but that’s another point entirely.

Dope yourself to 3:27. Or at least find an unknown runner, you can dope to a 3:27 on his second race. Then we can talk.

Cmon Man wrote:

The answer to “Where did he come from?” is doping. Sorry to anyone who thinks otherwise. You can be as naive as you please but once testing ramps up around Worlds this guy will disappear.

Anyone who thinks he’s actually 18 is naive too - but that’s another point entirely.