Beamish injured again

Why do two steeples in 3 days

Does his girlfriend sing this song for him?

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Suck if true. What's the injury?

To be fair, he has been least injured at OAC (versus NAU). But I generally agree, these athletes are pushed beyond their recovery means it seems.

In a previous post we were discussing Beamish and I commented that what is the point of someone so prone to injury running 2 steeples in 3 days. And now he's injured. Really? Can't imagine why. He even commented in an interview after the first steeple how his legs were 'dead'. It is seriously lacking in judgement by the OAC coaching staff. Both Beamish and McDonald are obviously gifted but prone to injury - tone it down, get them to the line at least.

Love to see it. Less competition for my boys Rooks and Corrigan.

If so, he can't do qualifying rounds?

Ritz coaches how he was coached. Former Salazar runner is used to a high training load bc he was on the dope. That’s why Dathan was always injured after he left NOP. You can’t train at the same level and recover without a little help

NVM. Stress reaction femur.

Maybe he should take a page out of what Cameron Myers does for training. Talent is wasted if it doesn't get to the starting line.

He can at least cross train through that and still be in decent shape for Tokyo.

I kind of repeat this in every thread when an OAC runner gets injured, but it looks like they train way too hard - other pros that have jumped in their workouts have said as much. The burnout and breakdown among that group is unreal. Only Nuguse seems to have avoided it. At a time when leading runners are all about controlled intensity, the OAC guys seem to be going to the well in workouts. I'm likely wrong, but the injury record there suggests something is up. And where is Alicia Monson?

she is entered in 5000 m at the LA Sunset Tour event in 2 weeks.

Would it better to at least be able to train like a runner and get to the line than be injured and not be able to run at all. Cross training can only get you so far. Merely an opinion. He's really is a nice mover and I'd like him to do well - he has after all won a World Championship and obviously has the wheels.

This is a (before indoor 3:46 mile) workout Nuguse ran, at 5400 ft elevation:

2k in 6:00 (threshold)
2k in 4:59
5x 1k in 3:05-3:00 (60s)
4x 200 in 27-26 (90s)

5 minutes rest between sets

while Jakob runs 6x 800 in 2x 2:00, 2x 1:55, 2x 1:49.5 before 7:54 2 mile. rest increased progressively throughout the workout but I think Jakob's is obviously lower intensity.

sure, maybe Nuguse can handle it - nobody else in OAC can though.

It is stunning how little spotlight appears to land on Dathan from the ON perspective - especially considering that guys like McDonald, Beamish, Garcia, Hoare (who while isn't injured just doesn't seem to have the right program to maximize his best) are their investments who they are paying, and just don't seem to be getting the right guidance on a training side.

For Beamish to be hurt again I'm sorry, this is coaching. This is a breakdown in not just what he's doing, but how it is meshing with a sensible racing schedule. It appears like nobody knows what they are doing with him - and that includes Ray Flynn his agent. Who signed off on 2 races in 3 days with a day of travel in between coming back from another injury? These guys even talk?

This is a kid with insane talent and potential and it's simply not being realized in his best years. Beamish should have been sick to his stomach watching Rooks almost win the Olympic title last season - absolutely no reason why in the best shape of his life (which is what you hope for at the Olympic Games and a lot of athletes can get it right), he couldn't have been right there with a medal too. Instead he's going into maybe his only Olympic games severely underdone because he couldn't even jump over hurdles for the 8 weeks heading into Paris. He was 27 and not 47, I mean come on.

I get Dathan is a "friend of the messageboard" and nobody likes to bag him, but time to get real. Too much of that group, with a world class setup from PT/healthcare/training facilities etc, are on the shelf - so who is accountable?

I generally scoff at the reflexive rush to link injuries to racing. In this case, though, the travel and uniquely high (and intense) race load (with hurdling/landings) make it pretty undeniable. Easy to second-guess now but George said on the podcast he could pull the plug, so I’m wondering why he didn’t.

I watch their podcast and stand by what I said last year: they all look underweight for their height. I know this is how middle/long distance often goes but perhaps something for the group to consider, in terms of constant injuries?

Need to make a massive retraction here. His agent is Stephen Haas not Ray Flynn. Apologies to RF on that one. This is now even less shocking considering Haas tries to "manage" about 45 athletes on his own. Excellent care and attention at play here.

After listening to Geordie on the podcast, these injuries were developed in training. The racing probably resulted in him backing off to manage the couple of weeks before, and then getting a wake-up call that he was heading nowhere fast running through a stress reaction. So not saying the race plan made sense (it didn’t), but he was going to have to back off eventually. The lackluster results and how bad he felt, clarified it. It also may have set him back we’ll see.