We also will be doing a live watch praty and reaction show starting 5 minutes before the race (so 1:55 pm ET) and then going on for as long as we need to afterwards:
Such a silly publicity stunt. But if she runs 4:05, the non-running world will be like "Wow, that was close!"
Comprehensively, this has, so far, been hyped up LESS than kipchoges sub 2 attempt(s) by Eneos. Ppl outside of running heard about the kipchoge campaign. Nobody outside of running us paying attention or getting fb/ig memos about faiths upcoming exhibition race.
I'm guessing that if she gets to 2:58.8, she will be in all sorts of distress. Running the next 409y in 61.1 will not be remotely possible.
I'm a fan though, and she is the best ever. No question.
2:58.8 is almost exactly 3:00 for 1320 yards, so that split is where she needs to be. Obviously, they aren’t expecting her to kick.
Yes, it converts to a shade under 3:00y. I said that if she gets to 1200m at 2:58.8, I imagine she will be in all sorts of distress and would in no way be able to close well.
I'm guessing that if she gets to 2:58.8, she will be in all sorts of distress. Running the next 409y in 61.1 will not be remotely possible.
I'm a fan though, and she is the best ever. No question.
This is what I just don't understand.
I can't stop thinking about the Xiamen 1000m WR attempt - 2.29.21, basically two months ago. And I know it was her first race of the season, she is surely in better shape now based on her training periodization alone, but I rewatched this race and she is perfectly even on the wavelight the entire way and the pacemaking through 600m is actually pretty decent. No it might not be the optimal pace "arrow" they are planning with the two guys behind her breaking up the "bubble" but this difference would have to be astronomical for them to take her through basically as fast that race and have her still run another lap and half at the same pace and I just can't possibly believe that to be remotely feasible.
So I am completely in agreement with you and honestly, I don't even see how she gets to the bell at that pace. Certainly in that 1000m if you asked her to run another 200m it would have been very ugly - she was trying pretty hard in that final 150m. To think she then has to go another 409m at that speed? I don't get it. She was basically at WR level for the 1000m in May - the jump she needs to have to do this though would be beyond anything we've ever seen in the sport by an astronomical margin.
She is the best ever, a great great runner. But what's the best case here - 4.05.0? 4.04.5? Do they throw the chance at that away by having her go out at a suicidal pace for the first 1000-1200m? This whole thing is just going to be fascinating either way which I am sure is ultimately exactly what Nike want.
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Prediction, I believe she can pass through 1200 at this pace. She's already passed through 1k at this pace, without the technology and male pacing, early in the season, but she will not hold on for sub 4. Hope she proves me wrong.
I'm guessing that if she gets to 2:58.8, she will be in all sorts of distress. Running the next 409y in 61.1 will not be remotely possible.
I'm a fan though, and she is the best ever. No question.
I can't stop thinking about the Xiamen 1000m WR attempt - 2.29.21, basically two months ago. And I know it was her first race of the season, she is surely in better shape now based on her training periodization alone, but I rewatched this race and she is perfectly even on the wavelight the entire way and the pacemaking through 600m is actually pretty decent.
So I am completely in agreement with you and honestly, I don't even see how she gets to the bell at that pace. Certainly in that 1000m if you asked her to run another 200m it would have been very ugly - she was trying pretty hard in that final 150m. To think she then has to go another 409m at that speed? I don't get it. She was basically at WR level for the 1000m in May - the jump she needs to have to do this though would be beyond anything we've ever seen in the sport by an astronomical margin.
Well given the 1,000 was early in the season, and she didn't have all the pacing and technological help, I could totally see her hitting the bell on pace, but probably won't go all the way.
I'm guessing that if she gets to 2:58.8, she will be in all sorts of distress. Running the next 409y in 61.1 will not be remotely possible.
I'm a fan though, and she is the best ever. No question.
She is the best ever, a great great runner. But what's the best case here - 4.05.0? 4.04.5? Do they throw the chance at that away by having her go out at a suicidal pace for the first 1000-1200m?
I think this is the real question.
Does she basically abandon the attempt and run behind the pace so she can record the fastest mile possible (which could be an "unofficial world record"), or does she stick to the pace, hit as many checkpoints as possible, and blow up spectacularly?
Not only will the last 409 yards not be possible in 61.1, but she might come to a damn walk if she hits the 2:58.8 split.
To me, and I'm not on Nike's marketing team, the best approach would be to ask, "How long can she hold sub-4:00 pace?" and run her with pacers and wave lights. Then the second she falls off the pace you stop and we would know that a woman, for now, can hold the pace for XXXX meters. Then we go from there in the future.
3:43.5 at 1500? Come on. She is the GOAT but this stunt will fo nothing to enhance her legacy. But maybe from a financial standpoint it makes sense for her.
Such a silly publicity stunt. But if she runs 4:05, the non-running world will be like "Wow, that was close!"
Comprehensively, this has, so far, been hyped up LESS than kipchoges sub 2 attempt(s) by Eneos. Ppl outside of running heard about the kipchoge campaign. Nobody outside of running us paying attention or getting fb/ig memos about faiths upcoming exhibition race.
For now. If she manages to go under 4:00, it will be EVERYWHERE that feminism / female empowerment is spread. Probably most people spreading the news won’t know or care that it wasn’t under competition conditions.
She is the best ever, a great great runner. But what's the best case here - 4.05.0? 4.04.5? Do they throw the chance at that away by having her go out at a suicidal pace for the first 1000-1200m?
I think this is the real question.
Does she basically abandon the attempt and run behind the pace so she can record the fastest mile possible (which could be an "unofficial world record"), or does she stick to the pace, hit as many checkpoints as possible, and blow up spectacularly?
Not only will the last 409 yards not be possible in 61.1, but she might come to a damn walk if she hits the 2:58.8 split.
To me, and I'm not on Nike's marketing team, the best approach would be to ask, "How long can she hold sub-4:00 pace?" and run her with pacers and wave lights. Then the second she falls off the pace you stop and we would know that a woman, for now, can hold the pace for XXXX meters. Then we go from there in the future.
I don't see how it would be worth her time to do this. 4:00 is an historic barrier and this entire exhibition has been organized for the sole purpose of breaking it. If all she wants is the fastest possible time, there's no reason to target it in a record-ineligible race. Better to risk blowing up for the chance at 3:59 imo.
I they built a 3 lane straight flat mile (no turns) and have pacers all around her then maybe she gets closer than 4:05. 4:00 on a real track is another matter.