That's good. Was a bit worried about his ankle injury
Whose injury, Emile's or Amdouni's (both were injured).
By the way, Emile is a proven Championship marathon runner, so while 27:49 may not impress the pundits, for Emile a 27:50 is perfect while combining heavy mileage marathon preparation. In addition, Emile usually only races 3-4 times a season, so he's on the right track.
Cairess pulled out of London with an ankle injury. This result is very good, only 5 sec off his road PR and 15 sec off his track PR. When is his next marathon? Fall?
That amdouni bloke is an obvious doper. Google the WhatsApp messages, and for a further reference of his moral character look at the video of him knocking all the water bottles off the table at the drink station midrace.
That amdouni bloke is an obvious doper. Google the WhatsApp messages, and for a further reference of his moral character look at the video of him knocking all the water bottles off the table at the drink station midrace.
Absolutely right, Amdouni is no choir boy, but he had a tough upbringing in the projects in Porto Vecchio, Corsica (French island in the Mediterranean sea). He used to get bullied and pushed around on the soccer field.
However, he's a phenomenal runner and possibly one of the most talented goats in French distance running. Faults aside, the man deserves respect for his formidable acmplishments.
Cairess: Good run by the Bradford native, with 27:49 today, just behind ART refugee athlete Mohammed, 27:47.
In 4th place French/Corsica native Morhad Amdouni (1:47/3:34/13:11/27:23/59:40/2:03:47) with 29:04, on the comeback trail.
Amdouni's range is probably the best in the world all time. Even Haile Gebreselassie would have never sniffed 1:47 for 2 laps.
And certainly not the profound range of controversy when you consider the Whatsapp doping leaks or knocking over everyone’s bottles in the Olympic Marathon. Not an athlete to cheer for, but you do you.
That amdouni bloke is an obvious doper. Google the WhatsApp messages, and for a further reference of his moral character look at the video of him knocking all the water bottles off the table at the drink station midrace.
Absolutely right, Amdouni is no choir boy, but he had a tough upbringing in the projects in Porto Vecchio, Corsica (French island in the Mediterranean sea). He used to get bullied and pushed around on the soccer field.
However, he's a phenomenal runner and possibly one of the most talented goats in French distance running. Faults aside, the man deserves respect for his formidable acmplishments.
No, he does not deserve that, especially when they are ill gotten.
Cairess: Good run by the Bradford native, with 27:49 today, just behind ART refugee athlete Mohammed, 27:47.
In 4th place French/Corsica native Morhad Amdouni (1:47/3:34/13:11/27:23/59:40/2:03:47) with 29:04, on the comeback trail.
Amdouni's range is probably the best in the world all time. Even Haile Gebreselassie would have never sniffed 1:47 for 2 laps.
And certainly not the profound range of controversy when you consider the Whatsapp doping leaks or knocking over everyone’s bottles in the Olympic Marathon. Not an athlete to cheer for, but you do you.
Tbf Ghost1 has never seen a blatant doper he doesn't like.
Absolutely, and the litmus test is who would you rather have sit on your mother's favourite sofa with a cup of tea or coffee. Obviously, Almgren hands down. The Swede, like most Nordics - polite, reserved, softly spoken.
Amdouni is a great runner, whether doped or not, but agreed that as a human, he doesn't have many friends. The other top French marathon runners are also not fond of him.
Not sure that Amdouni will ever confirm that phenomenal 2:03:47 achieved in Seville, last year, 2024. Was it a clean result? People are suspicious about this result, but, up till now, it stands.
It's hard to compare times before and after the supershoes era, but Mo Farah obviously had far better range than Amdouni and Almgren, and he is potentially the best championship distance runner in history, certainly in the top two with Bekele.
It's hard to compare times before and after the supershoes era, but Mo Farah obviously had far better range than Amdouni and Almgren, and he is potentially the best championship distance runner in history, certainly in the top two with Bekele.
Formidable range, especially as most of those times were achieved without the Super Shoes of today. Yes, he ran 2:05:11 in Chicago (2018), but they were not the super shoes of today. Take Linkletter, Canada, actually a dual U.S./Canadian citizen, a 2:07:41 runner, light years away (with all due respect) from Farah's quality as a runner. Farah, with Linkletter's Puma (legal dope) shoes would have ran 2:02:00-2:03:30, I believe.
In addition, Farah never really focused on times, per se. He focused on Championship winning, which he did, possibly better than any other distance runner in history. Otherwise, I believe 12:35-12:40, 26:20-26:30 would have been attainable in Cheptegei type races with pace lights. He definitely had the wheels, and the most beautiful, fluid stride.
It's hard to compare times before and after the supershoes era, but Mo Farah obviously had far better range than Amdouni and Almgren, and he is potentially the best championship distance runner in history, certainly in the top two with Bekele.
Formidable range, especially as most of those times were achieved without the Super Shoes of today. Yes, he ran 2:05:11 in Chicago (2018), but they were not the super shoes of today. Take Linkletter, Canada, actually a dual U.S./Canadian citizen, a 2:07:41 runner, light years away (with all due respect) from Farah's quality as a runner. Farah, with Linkletter's Puma (legal dope) shoes would have ran 2:02:00-2:03:30, I believe.
In addition, Farah never really focused on times, per se. He focused on Championship winning, which he did, possibly better than any other distance runner in history. Otherwise, I believe 12:35-12:40, 26:20-26:30 would have been attainable in Cheptegei type races with pace lights. He definitely had the wheels, and the most beautiful, fluid stride.
Correction: Linkletter ran 2:07:02 at Boston 2025, 2 seconds ahead of Clayton Young. Mantz 4th same race, 2:05:08.
Can Linkletter improve his time? Possible in a Valencia/Seville type race....which are more like time trials for most. Potential for 2:05:30-2:06:00 there.
It's hard to compare times before and after the supershoes era, but Mo Farah obviously had far better range than Amdouni and Almgren, and he is potentially the best championship distance runner in history, certainly in the top two with Bekele.
I would disagree with that. There is no way Farah is running 22.xx for a 200m out of the blocks. I cannot see a 1'45 from him either- I don't believe that Andreas ran that in super shoes either.
For further discussion, Farah's 10,000m is marginally better at 26'49, but has "only" a best of 12'53 for 5000m. Farah's 59'07 beats Almgren. In all fairness, it is really just comparing carrots to strawberries as you stated, as it is also a very different era of running/racing with super shoes.
It's hard to compare times before and after the supershoes era, but Mo Farah obviously had far better range than Amdouni and Almgren, and he is potentially the best championship distance runner in history, certainly in the top two with Bekele.
Formidable range, especially as most of those times were achieved without the Super Shoes of today. Yes, he ran 2:05:11 in Chicago (2018), but they were not the super shoes of today. Take Linkletter, Canada, actually a dual U.S./Canadian citizen, a 2:07:41 runner, light years away (with all due respect) from Farah's quality as a runner. Farah, with Linkletter's Puma (legal dope) shoes would have ran 2:02:00-2:03:30, I believe.
In addition, Farah never really focused on times, per se. He focused on Championship winning, which he did, possibly better than any other distance runner in history. Otherwise, I believe 12:35-12:40, 26:20-26:30 would have been attainable in Cheptegei type races with pace lights. He definitely had the wheels, and the most beautiful, fluid stride.
The Chicago time was run in the Nike Vaporfly Elite, absolutely akin to what is available now. At that, they were customised as well.
Formidable range, especially as most of those times were achieved without the Super Shoes of today. Yes, he ran 2:05:11 in Chicago (2018), but they were not the super shoes of today. Take Linkletter, Canada, actually a dual U.S./Canadian citizen, a 2:07:41 runner, light years away (with all due respect) from Farah's quality as a runner. Farah, with Linkletter's Puma (legal dope) shoes would have ran 2:02:00-2:03:30, I believe.
In addition, Farah never really focused on times, per se. He focused on Championship winning, which he did, possibly better than any other distance runner in history. Otherwise, I believe 12:35-12:40, 26:20-26:30 would have been attainable in Cheptegei type races with pace lights. He definitely had the wheels, and the most beautiful, fluid stride.
The Chicago time was run in the Nike Vaporfly Elite, absolutely akin to what is available now. At that, they were customised as well.
So you're saying the Vaporfly from 2018, offered the same benefits as today's version...? That doesn't really make a lot of sense. The shoe guru scientists are constantly tweaking (making them marginally lighter, but still preserving their protective elements) their products.
Look at Puma, for example - in 2018 they didn't even have a super shoe of note.
