Girl called me a conspiracy theorist after I said covid 19 likely came from the Wuhan Lab. Are people really this ignorant?

None of the many liberal women I know think, for example, that their birthday is any day other than their actual day of birth so they definitely base some of their thinking on facts. You should consider doing so too.

And they still cannot pinpoint the animal it came from!

Cool story bro.

The hard-core Libbies won't believe or acknowledge something, then when confronted with irrefutable facts, they slide into ignorance or name calling. That delusion is exactly why the media, instituion and political leaders take advantage of manipulating and grooming their small minds--and they don't even realize it!

I mean conspiracy theory is hyperbole. That’s silly. It’s one of the biggest possible explanations which some quality supporting evidence.

I don’t think you need to go off on “liberal women” though. There are plenty of right wingers who are 100% certain COVID came from a lab and will call anyone who dares to question them a moron.

Both sides have people too caught up in the politics to appreciate nuance. I don’t see this as characteristic of any group of people specifically

I will continue to beat the drum that most people who are “certain” about lab leak stopped reading new evidence in 2022 or so.

The data favors zoonosis at this time. Maybe 70/30.

Why would this be necessary? If someone goes into a cave or a market and comes out sick do you say, “what animal got you sick if you can’t tell me I won’t believe you.”

It was your first time talking to a girl what were you expecting.

Typical pretend LRC scenario where the poster is taking to a “woman” that must be wrong in some way.

Other posters; yeah women are dumb.

OP: did I mention they were a lib?

Others; yeah libs are dumb.

Most (nearly all?) liberal women I've known think their date of birth has hugely influenced their life and who they are due to where the planets and stars were on that day, so I think this might actually be a terrible example of liberal women using facts in their reasoning.

I was called a white supremacist by a white, liberal lady in her late 50s because I had a camo ski hat on in CO. I guess camo = KKK or something. Not sure.

They're all nuts.

One of the most significant gaps is the lab leak hypothesis is that WIV wasn't known to have a closely related precursor to the Covid-19 virus. That kind of implies that WIV either had a virus they weren't publicly cataloging or they were manipulating viruses in ways they have publicly admitted to. In this sense, the belief in the lab leak hypothesis does imply belief that WIV is "conspiring" to hide relevant facts which is a "conspiracy theory" in some sense.

Conspiracies do happen, of course, and the Chinese have been far less transparent than one might hope, so the lab leak can't be ruled out, but on the publicly available data there are significant holes in the lab leak hypothesis.

Yes, and it because of people like that that we got a covid pandemic. There is much worse out there waiting for a lab accident. Covid was only a Warning.

On the topic there's this:

whitehouse.gov

Lab Leak: The True Origins of Covid-19

THE ORIGIN “The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2” publication — which was used repeatedly by public health officials and the media to discredit the lab leak

Open link

#2 is just wrong on the available public evidence, that is, there were probably at least two spillover events early in the pandemic and numerous documented inter-species spillovers since.

As a general rule, anyone who is absolutely certain about the origins of Covid-19 on the public evidence can be assumed not to be credible.

I’m not convinced she was acting alone.

We're in a post-truth era where most people can't figure out what's real on complex topics that require special knowledge. If you think about it: it's actually really challenging and time-consuming on any controversial topic. So much politics trying to convince people one way and the opposite.

It was created by the Israel as a bioweapon against China.

Unfortunately it couldn't be contained

Alot of evidence of that now