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  • cofounder

    rojo

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    3 weeks ago 04/21/2025 4:29pm EDT

    The Americans made history today with 3 at 2:08:00 faster

    There were three Americans in the top 10 today as in addition to Mantz (2:05:08, 4th) and Young (2:07:04, 7th), unheralded Ryan Ford ran 2:08:00 to place 10th. The 27-year-old Ford, who runs for Zap Endurance, was 11th in NYC in his debut last fall in 2:11:08. He has a 60:59 half pb and 13:29/27:40 pbs on the track. He ran collegiately for Iowa State and Tennessee-Martin and was 47th at the 2022 NCAA xc champs.

    Before today, only once had two Americans run 2:08:00 or faster in the same race. At 2023, Chicago Mantz ran 2:07:47 and Young ran 2:08:00. With Ford at 2:08:00 after today that means 10 US men have run 2:08:00 or faster in a marathon in history.

    Updated all-time US Marathon list (all conditions)
    Rank Time Runner Race
    1 2:04:58 Ryan Hall 2011 Boston
    2 2:05:08 Conner Mantz 2025 Boston
    3 2:05:38 Khalid Khannouchi 2002 Chicago
    4 2:06:07 Galen Rupp 2018 Prague
    5 2:06:53 Biya Simbassa 2024 Valencia
    6 2:07:04 Clayton Young 2025 Boston
    7 2:07:47 Dathan Ritzenhein 2012 Chicago
    8 2:07:56 Leonard Korir 2019 Amsterdam
    9 2:07:57 Matthew Richtman 2025 LA
    10 2:08:00 Ryan Ford 2025 Boston

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  • pippppi toi

    Anonymous Poster

    3 weeks ago 04/21/2025 4:34pm EDT
    re: rojo

    rojo wrote:

    And to think before, we'd never even had 2 that fast in the same race.

    The Americans made history today with 3 at 2:08:00 faster

    There were three Americans in the top 10 today as in addition to Mantz (2:05:08, 4th) and Young (2:07:04, 7th), unheralded Ryan Ford ran 2:08:00 to place 10th. The 27-year-old Ford, who runs for Zap Endurance, was 11th in NYC in his debut last fall in 2:11:08. He has a 60:59 half pb and 13:29/27:40 pbs on the track. He ran collegiately for Iowa State and Tennessee-Martin and was 47th at the 2022 NCAA xc champs.

    Never before in history had two Americans, let alone three run 2:08:00 or faster in the same race. That’s not a surprise as only 9 Americans had ever run 2:08:00 or faster before today (both Mantz and Young had done it).

    Updated all-time US Marathon list (all conditions)
    Rank Time Runner Race
    1 2:04:58 Ryan Hall 2011 Boston
    2 2:05:08 Conner Mantz 2025 Boston
    3 2:05:38 Khalid Khannouchi 2002 Chicago
    4 2:06:07 Galen Rupp 2018 Prague
    5 2:06:53 Biya Simbassa 2024 Valencia
    6 2:07:04 Clayton Young 2025 Boston
    7 2:07:47 Dathan Ritzenhein 2012 Chicago
    8 2:07:56 Leonard Korir 2019 Amsterdam
    9 2:07:57 Matthew Richtman 2025 LA
    10 2:08:00 Ryan Ford 2025 Boston

    Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=elTrubq6Jxg

    How many AMerican women broke 2:20?

  • registered

    slap that paddle HARD

    Member since 03/24/2025.

    116 posts. Last post 1 week ago.
    3 weeks ago 04/21/2025 4:55pm EDT
    re: rojo

    My god that’s fast and so good 🍆

  • It must be said

    Anonymous Poster

    3 weeks ago 04/21/2025 5:00pm EDT
    re: rojo

    It's the shoes.

    Seriously.

  • canadian ba$on

    Anonymous Poster

    3 weeks ago 04/21/2025 5:05pm EDT
    re: rojo

    rojo wrote:

    And to think before, we'd never even had 2 that fast in the same race.

    The Americans made history today with 3 at 2:08:00 faster

    There were three Americans in the top 10 today as in addition to Mantz (2:05:08, 4th) and Young (2:07:04, 7th), unheralded Ryan Ford ran 2:08:00 to place 10th. The 27-year-old Ford, who runs for Zap Endurance, was 11th in NYC in his debut last fall in 2:11:08. He has a 60:59 half pb and 13:29/27:40 pbs on the track. He ran collegiately for Iowa State and Tennessee-Martin and was 47th at the 2022 NCAA xc champs.

    Never before in history had two Americans, let alone three run 2:08:00 or faster in the same race. That’s not a surprise as only 9 Americans had ever run 2:08:00 or faster before today (both Mantz and Young had done it).

    Updated all-time US Marathon list (all conditions)
    Rank Time Runner Race
    1 2:04:58 Ryan Hall 2011 Boston
    2 2:05:08 Conner Mantz 2025 Boston
    3 2:05:38 Khalid Khannouchi 2002 Chicago
    4 2:06:07 Galen Rupp 2018 Prague
    5 2:06:53 Biya Simbassa 2024 Valencia
    6 2:07:04 Clayton Young 2025 Boston
    7 2:07:47 Dathan Ritzenhein 2012 Chicago
    8 2:07:56 Leonard Korir 2019 Amsterdam
    9 2:07:57 Matthew Richtman 2025 LA
    10 2:08:00 Ryan Ford 2025 Boston

    Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=elTrubq6Jxg

    Actually, not back. Your country is 10x the size of Canada and we produced 1 sub 2:05 today, by ratio you should have had 10.

    And we have 2 guys who're currently sub 2:08, where are your 20?

  • canadian ba$on

    Anonymous Poster

    3 weeks ago 04/21/2025 5:05pm EDT
    re: canadian ba$on

    canadian ba$on wrote:

    rojo wrote:

    And to think before, we'd never even had 2 that fast in the same race.

    The Americans made history today with 3 at 2:08:00 faster

    There were three Americans in the top 10 today as in addition to Mantz (2:05:08, 4th) and Young (2:07:04, 7th), unheralded Ryan Ford ran 2:08:00 to place 10th. The 27-year-old Ford, who runs for Zap Endurance, was 11th in NYC in his debut last fall in 2:11:08. He has a 60:59 half pb and 13:29/27:40 pbs on the track. He ran collegiately for Iowa State and Tennessee-Martin and was 47th at the 2022 NCAA xc champs.

    Never before in history had two Americans, let alone three run 2:08:00 or faster in the same race. That’s not a surprise as only 9 Americans had ever run 2:08:00 or faster before today (both Mantz and Young had done it).

    Updated all-time US Marathon list (all conditions)
    Rank Time Runner Race
    1 2:04:58 Ryan Hall 2011 Boston
    2 2:05:08 Conner Mantz 2025 Boston
    3 2:05:38 Khalid Khannouchi 2002 Chicago
    4 2:06:07 Galen Rupp 2018 Prague
    5 2:06:53 Biya Simbassa 2024 Valencia
    6 2:07:04 Clayton Young 2025 Boston
    7 2:07:47 Dathan Ritzenhein 2012 Chicago
    8 2:07:56 Leonard Korir 2019 Amsterdam
    9 2:07:57 Matthew Richtman 2025 LA
    10 2:08:00 Ryan Ford 2025 Boston

    Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=elTrubq6Jxg

    Actually, not back. Your country is 10x the size of Canada and we produced 1 sub 2:05 today, by ratio you should have had 10.

    And we have 2 guys who're currently sub 2:08, where are your 20?

    Fingers got slippy eating my bacon. 1 Sub 2:08 today

  • Olympic Contest Winner

    Blowing Rock Master

    Member since 08/12/2009.

    212 posts. Last post 1 week ago.
    3 weeks ago 04/21/2025 6:33pm EDT
    re: canadian ba$on

    canadian ba$on wrote:

    Actually, not back. Your country is 10x the size of Canada and we produced 1 sub 2:05 today, by ratio you should have had 10.

    And we have 2 guys who're currently sub 2:08, where are your 20?

    What Canadian ran sub-2:05 today?

  • Olympic Contest Winner

    Blowing Rock Master

    Member since 08/12/2009.

    212 posts. Last post 1 week ago.
    3 weeks ago 04/21/2025 6:35pm EDT
    re: Blowing Rock Master

    Never mind. I just saw your follow up post.

  • 30 years ago

    Anonymous Poster

    3 weeks ago 04/21/2025 6:43pm EDT
    re: rojo

    rojo wrote:

    And to think before, we'd never even had 2 that fast in the same race.

    The Americans made history today with 3 at 2:08:00 faster

    There were three Americans in the top 10 today as in addition to Mantz (2:05:08, 4th) and Young (2:07:04, 7th), unheralded Ryan Ford ran 2:08:00 to place 10th. The 27-year-old Ford, who runs for Zap Endurance, was 11th in NYC in his debut last fall in 2:11:08. He has a 60:59 half pb and 13:29/27:40 pbs on the track. He ran collegiately for Iowa State and Tennessee-Martin and was 47th at the 2022 NCAA xc champs.

    Never before in history had two Americans, let alone three run 2:08:00 or faster in the same race. That’s not a surprise as only 9 Americans had ever run 2:08:00 or faster before today (both Mantz and Young had done it).

    Updated all-time US Marathon list (all conditions)
    Rank Time Runner Race
    1 2:04:58 Ryan Hall 2011 Boston
    2 2:05:08 Conner Mantz 2025 Boston
    3 2:05:38 Khalid Khannouchi 2002 Chicago
    4 2:06:07 Galen Rupp 2018 Prague
    5 2:06:53 Biya Simbassa 2024 Valencia
    6 2:07:04 Clayton Young 2025 Boston
    7 2:07:47 Dathan Ritzenhein 2012 Chicago
    8 2:07:56 Leonard Korir 2019 Amsterdam
    9 2:07:57 Matthew Richtman 2025 LA
    10 2:08:00 Ryan Ford 2025 Boston

    Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=elTrubq6Jxg

    Would be great if it was 1995 lol. 2.08 is worth 2.14 pre the shoes

  • Mister Marathoner

    Anonymous Poster

    3 weeks ago 04/21/2025 7:01pm EDT
    re: 30 years ago

    We need to stop celebrating mediocrity. 172 guys ran faster than 2:08 last year. A woman ran 2:09.

  • Must go faster

    Anonymous Poster

    3 weeks ago 04/21/2025 7:19pm EDT
    re: Mister Marathoner

    Mister Marathoner wrote:

    We need to stop celebrating mediocrity. 172 guys ran faster than 2:08 last year. A woman ran 2:09.

    ok, but first step to more marathoners and focus on the event follows from celebrating it at all. We gotta keep it up. More celebration is good

  • Proftrain

    Anonymous Poster

    3 weeks ago 04/21/2025 7:21pm EDT
    re: It must be said

    I'm with "it must be said." To the extent you believe 4% shoes, that's 5.2 minutes off an old school 210 marathoner, .04 x 130 minutes. Puma another 3%???? All the same, have to look relative to world stage, not absolute times anymore. Still fast, and very competitive, but 2:05 is not what it use to be. I no longer understand after a woman runs 2:09.

  • That's dope

    Anonymous Poster

    3 weeks ago 04/21/2025 7:29pm EDT
    re: Mister Marathoner

    Mister Marathoner wrote:

    We need to stop celebrating mediocrity. 172 guys ran faster than 2:08 last year. A woman ran 2:09.

    We can celebrate clean performances.

  • registered

    Ackley

    Member since 10/16/2015.

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    3 weeks ago 04/21/2025 7:29pm EDT
    re: It must be said

    It must be said wrote:

    It's the shoes.

    Seriously.

    I agree with Rojo’s premise, but for a history lesson — Salazar and Beardsley were the first two guys to run under 2:09:00 in the same race. This was 43 years ago and they were wearing slippers.

  • cofounder

    rojo

    Member since 07/09/2002.

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    3 weeks ago 04/21/2025 7:34pm EDT
    re: Proftrain

    I started the thread with a bit of sarcasm which is often lost on the Internet. I was pleased by the results but 21 Japanese men have broken 2:08 this year alone.

  • shoelessinseattle

    Anonymous Poster

    3 weeks ago 04/21/2025 7:36pm EDT
    re: Mister Marathoner

    Of these how many were Japanese? Until the USA can mirror their share of sub 208s, it’s mediocrity.

  • shoelessinseattle

    Anonymous Poster

    3 weeks ago 04/21/2025 7:38pm EDT
    re: shoelessinseattle

    Overlapping reply. 20 plus YTD

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    MasterofNone

    Member since 05/06/2019.

    864 posts. Last post 4 days ago.
    3 weeks ago 04/21/2025 8:20pm EDT
    re: Must go faster

    Must go faster wrote:

    Mister Marathoner wrote:

    We need to stop celebrating mediocrity. 172 guys ran faster than 2:08 last year. A woman ran 2:09.

    ok, but first step to more marathoners and focus on the event follows from celebrating it at all. We gotta keep it up. More celebration is good

    32,000 people ran Boston today, Chicago and NY will have a similar number. We can and should celebrate the running culture in America. When you have to run sub 2:04 to even have a shot at winning a major, 2:08 ain't cutting it- until we have a handful of 2:05 low guys consistently mixing it up, we have nothing to celebrate.

    Guys like Ryan Ford and Matt Richtman we can celebrate, because they are young and fresh in the sport; we do not yet have an idea of their ceilings. A horde of 2:08s in 2025 is akin to a horde of 2:11/2:12s in the 2010s

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    douglas burke

    Member since 11/21/2010.

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    3 weeks ago 04/21/2025 8:33pm EDT
    re: rojo

    rojo wrote:

    The Americans made history today with 3 at 2:08:00 faster

    There were three Americans in the top 10 today as in addition to Mantz (2:05:08, 4th) and Young (2:07:04, 7th), unheralded Ryan Ford ran 2:08:00 to place 10th. The 27-year-old Ford, who runs for Zap Endurance, was 11th in NYC in his debut last fall in 2:11:08. He has a 60:59 half pb and 13:29/27:40 pbs on the track. He ran collegiately for Iowa State and Tennessee-Martin and was 47th at the 2022 NCAA xc champs.

    Before today, only once had two Americans run 2:08:00 or faster in the same race. At 2023, Chicago Mantz ran 2:07:47 and Young ran 2:08:00. With Ford at 2:08:00 after today that means 10 US men have run 2:08:00 or faster in a marathon in history.

    Updated all-time US Marathon list (all conditions)
    Rank Time Runner Race
    1 2:04:58 Ryan Hall 2011 Boston
    2 2:05:08 Conner Mantz 2025 Boston
    3 2:05:38 Khalid Khannouchi 2002 Chicago
    4 2:06:07 Galen Rupp 2018 Prague
    5 2:06:53 Biya Simbassa 2024 Valencia
    6 2:07:04 Clayton Young 2025 Boston
    7 2:07:47 Dathan Ritzenhein 2012 Chicago
    8 2:07:56 Leonard Korir 2019 Amsterdam
    9 2:07:57 Matthew Richtman 2025 LA
    10 2:08:00 Ryan Ford 2025 Boston

    Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=elTrubq6Jxg

    IAAF And Tilastopaja do not count BOSTON (They both did until Boston had that Super Windy Day won in 2:03.02 with 2nd in 2:03.06 and A few places Later Ryan Hall ran 2:04.58

  • London?

    Anonymous Poster

    2 weeks ago 04/22/2025 2:26am EDT
    re: rojo

    rojo wrote:

    The Americans made history today with 3 at 2:08:00 faster

    There were three Americans in the top 10 today as in addition to Mantz (2:05:08, 4th) and Young (2:07:04, 7th), unheralded Ryan Ford ran 2:08:00 to place 10th. The 27-year-old Ford, who runs for Zap Endurance, was 11th in NYC in his debut last fall in 2:11:08. He has a 60:59 half pb and 13:29/27:40 pbs on the track. He ran collegiately for Iowa State and Tennessee-Martin and was 47th at the 2022 NCAA xc champs.

    Before today, only once had two Americans run 2:08:00 or faster in the same race. At 2023, Chicago Mantz ran 2:07:47 and Young ran 2:08:00. With Ford at 2:08:00 after today that means 10 US men have run 2:08:00 or faster in a marathon in history.

    Updated all-time US Marathon list (all conditions)
    Rank Time Runner Race
    1 2:04:58 Ryan Hall 2011 Boston
    2 2:05:08 Conner Mantz 2025 Boston
    3 2:05:38 Khalid Khannouchi 2002 Chicago
    4 2:06:07 Galen Rupp 2018 Prague
    5 2:06:53 Biya Simbassa 2024 Valencia
    6 2:07:04 Clayton Young 2025 Boston
    7 2:07:47 Dathan Ritzenhein 2012 Chicago
    8 2:07:56 Leonard Korir 2019 Amsterdam
    9 2:07:57 Matthew Richtman 2025 LA
    10 2:08:00 Ryan Ford 2025 Boston

    Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=elTrubq6Jxg

    Didn’t Hall run 2:06:17 in London 2008?

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