The 2025 Boston Marathon was the fastest since 2011. Arguably the most talented field in Boston Marathon history. Understanding that weather, conditions, shoes, all play a factor, Conner's time would have won him every Boston Marathon in the past 13 editions.
The 2025 Boston Marathon was the fastest since 2011. Arguably the most talented field in Boston Marathon history. Understanding that weather, conditions, shoes, all play a factor, Conner's time would have won him every Boston Marathon in the past 13 editions.
Understanding that all those things play a factor, your conclusion is irrelevant.
Mantz caught a huge lucky break when Lemma dropped out, and he still couldn’t finish top 3.
Mantz is a very good runner but let’s stop pretending he’s one of the all time great Americans.
You have a weak grasp on the concept of luck. Luck is like a cat ran out onto the course and jumped on him and scratched his eye. Or a ladder fell and smote him.
Luck is not a long pre-existing injury that everyone was aware that he was rehabbing from, and apparently has not adequately and properly recovered from.
And if Lemma ran the same time as he did when he won Boston last year, he would have placed 6th.
2:05:08 in Boston. If you'd told me that yesterday, I would've thought he almost certainly made the podium (and he was only a few seconds off), so I think overall it was a great day, even missing the podium. Plus 2:05:08 (presumably without a massive tailwind) in Boston is worth a 2:03 (maybe even 2:03 low...) in Valencia I think. He is in the shape of his life, and hopefully this isn't the end of it. Only 4s off the podium today, and if he can get into better shape by Chicago, we might get an AR and a podium in the same race.
Of course, he could retire tomorrow and this would be one of the best performances by an American marathoner of the last 20 years. Worth appreciating that now before getting too excited about the future.
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it's what americans are. they have no idea what goes on outside their border either through ignorance or arrogance or a combination. this forum is a microcosm of it.
Lots of examples of USA being insular, this ain’t one of them.
Mantz did a great job, and it’s worth celebrating. This is also an American site; while it’s great to recognize the performances of others (like Korir, great win), the Americans here are allowed to celebrate their hometown hero.
2:05:08 in Boston. If you'd told me that yesterday, I would've thought he almost certainly made the podium (and he was only a few seconds off), so I think overall it was a great day, even missing the podium. Plus 2:05:08 (presumably without a massive tailwind) in Boston is worth a 2:03 (maybe even 2:03 low...) in Valencia I think. He is in the shape of his life, and hopefully this isn't the end of it. Only 4s off the podium today, and if he can get into better shape by Chicago, we might get an AR and a podium in the same race.
Of course, he could retire tomorrow and this would be one of the best performances by an American marathoner of the last 20 years. Worth appreciating that now before getting too excited about the future.
If it’s one of the best performances by an American marathoner in the last 20 years, it’s only because American marathoning has mostly been an embarrassment during that timeframe. Y’all have low standards.
Meb, Hall, and Rupp were all better than Mantz.
I miss the days of Frank Shorter, Boston Billy, Al Sal, and Khalid Khannouchi. The titans of American marathoning.
If it’s one of the best performances by an American marathoner in the last 20 years, it’s only because American marathoning has mostly been an embarrassment during that timeframe. Y’all have low standards.
Meb, Hall, and Rupp were all better than Mantz.
I miss the days of Frank Shorter, Boston Billy, Al Sal, and Khalid Khannouchi. The titans of American marathoning.
Why so many dislikes? Every word I said is true.
People over here throwing a party for a dude who finished FOURTH??? Raise your standards and expect more from Americans.
If it’s one of the best performances by an American marathoner in the last 20 years, it’s only because American marathoning has mostly been an embarrassment during that timeframe. Y’all have low standards.
Meb, Hall, and Rupp were all better than Mantz.
I miss the days of Frank Shorter, Boston Billy, Al Sal, and Khalid Khannouchi. The titans of American marathoning.
Why so many dislikes? Every word I said is true.
People over here throwing a party for a dude who finished FOURTH??? Raise your standards and expect more from Americans.
If it’s one of the best performances by an American marathoner in the last 20 years, it’s only because American marathoning has mostly been an embarrassment during that timeframe. Y’all have low standards.
Meb, Hall, and Rupp were all better than Mantz.
I miss the days of Frank Shorter, Boston Billy, Al Sal, and Khalid Khannouchi. The titans of American marathoning.
Why so many dislikes? Every word I said is true.
People over here throwing a party for a dude who finished FOURTH??? Raise your standards and expect more from Americans.
I just wonder if you were with insufferable when these other runners who you now proudly esteem were also in Conner's stage of his career.
Meb won his first WMM at 34. I wouldn't be surprised if prior to that you were old man screaming at clouds with him, like when Meb was 28 at got 7th at the Chicago marathon were you also like "this freakin loser, how come people are excited that he got 7th? He's never going to be anything, you all need to raise your standards."
Lots of examples of USA being insular, this ain’t one of them.
Mantz did a great job, and it’s worth celebrating. This is also an American site; while it’s great to recognize the performances of others (like Korir, great win), the Americans here are allowed to celebrate their hometown hero.
why do you think this is an american site? this is the world wide web. which part of that are you struggling with? prime example of what I'm talking about