Pretty solid opener for Engels, only behind the 1:44 he went in 2019 in his prime. Will be interesting to see how he translates this to a 1500m/mile soon.
Pretty solid opener for Engels, only behind the 1:44 he went in 2019 in his prime. Will be interesting to see how he translates this to a 1500m/mile soon.
And remember that he pace 4200m(?) of one of the 5000m heats a couple of days ago at Bryan Clay
I think that is great. We take for granted that everyone is going to be at the cutting edge of the new era of ultra fast times... It wasn't long ago that a 1:46 was really solid.
I doubt it means he'll be at an international level ever again, but he should be a top-10 or top-20 runner in the USA. That is certainly "worth it." I love to watch him race.
I remember when Webb was still running, but past his peak, and a friend of mine was basically disgusted that he was still collecting a check to run slower and slower each year. I just remember saying, "Hey, if they'll pay you to run, and you are having fun, why wouldn't you do it!"
Same for Engles... If you are loving it, keep it up!
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I think that is great. We take for granted that everyone is going to be at the cutting edge of the new era of ultra fast times... It wasn't long ago that a 1:46 was really solid.
I doubt it means he'll be at an international level ever again, but he should be a top-10 or top-20 runner in the USA. That is certainly "worth it." I love to watch him race.
I remember when Webb was still running, but past his peak, and a friend of mine was basically disgusted that he was still collecting a check to run slower and slower each year. I just remember saying, "Hey, if they'll pay you to run, and you are having fun, why wouldn't you do it!"
Same for Engles... If you are loving it, keep it up!
Yeah, he was 9th at USAs in 3:34.2 last year and that had to be on pretty abbreviated buildup. He’s shown he’s still competitive. Major long shot to make a team, but he’s still plenty respectable.
I doubt it means he'll be at an international level ever again, but he should be a top-10 or top-20 runner in the USA.
I don’t disagree with this statement but it’s not based on his 1:46 last night. Writing somebody off as never being world class again based on an 800m season opener in April when world champs are in September is a bit ridiculous IMO.
Yeah, he was 9th at USAs in 3:34.2 last year and that had to be on pretty abbreviated buildup. He’s shown he’s still competitive. Major long shot to make a team, but he’s still plenty respectable.
Good post! That is right. If you are top-10 in the USA, why would you retire? To work in a shoe store? To be a brand ambassador? Just run if you are loving it.
Heck, we all run (and race) and we aren't even getting paid a penny!
I doubt it means he'll be at an international level ever again, but he should be a top-10 or top-20 runner in the USA.
I don’t disagree with this statement but it’s not based on his 1:46 last night. Writing somebody off as never being world class again based on an 800m season opener in April when world champs are in September is a bit ridiculous IMO.
That's true. Good point. But I wasn't basing my comment on this 800 in particular. I think that the USA is just way too deep in the 800 and 1500 for anyone to "make the team" who isn't also in a position to medal globally.
So Craig, while great, is not likely to run 3:29 or 1:43 (low), which are the time I think you have to run to be on a US team at this point...
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I don’t disagree with this statement but it’s not based on his 1:46 last night. Writing somebody off as never being world class again based on an 800m season opener in April when world champs are in September is a bit ridiculous IMO.
I think that the USA is just way too deep in the 800 and 1500 for anyone to "make the team" who isn't also in a position to medal globally.
100% accurate. Pretty cool for fans in this country that we've reached this point.
with the bicarb, type of race, it being an opener, it is hard to comment other than 146 in any conditions is a good opener for any 1500 guy.
if the conditions were ok and not great and the athlete isn't peaked for speed, and it being an opener, then the athlete would be expected to go at least 144 high.
and that with strength gets you into some nice finals.
Veteran observer checking in... I watched Steve Scott run a 1:46 point at the pre meet in 1982. I think he ran 3:47 that year. Sure it's not 3:43, but still a good mark.