Wartburg College has 18 men under 15:00 in the 5k this outdoor season. Add in 3 other guys from indoor season and they're looking at 21 in total this season. They have more guys under 15 in the 5k than some teams even have people on their roster. Incredible depth and most likely incredible coaching as many of these athletes were not high school superstars.
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Wartburg College has 18 men under 15:00 in the 5k this outdoor season. Add in 3 other guys from indoor season and they're looking at 21 in total this season. They have more guys under 15 in the 5k than some teams even have people on their roster. Incredible depth and most likely incredible coaching as many of these athletes were not high school superstars.
I just looked them up on tfrrs and counted 19. But their median time (for those under 15) is 14:46.92. I don't think this is that noteworthy at all - if all you do is run and don't have any academic workload hindering you this progression should almost be expected, and sub 15 means nothing any more, even at the d3 level. Their roster size is also huge.
Looking at their 1, 10, and 19 runner:
1: 4:41 / 16:15 HS PR's
10: 17:03
19: 4:24 / 10:03 / 16:29
Yes, they have much more very low-end depth than Stanford or NAU (the first 2 schools that came to mind), but nowhere near the quality of front runners, or even mid / mid-back.
Wartburg College has 18 men under 15:00 in the 5k this outdoor season. Add in 3 other guys from indoor season and they're looking at 21 in total this season. They have more guys under 15 in the 5k than some teams even have people on their roster. Incredible depth and most likely incredible coaching as many of these athletes were not high school superstars.
I just looked them up on tfrrs and counted 19. But their median time (for those under 15) is 14:46.92. I don't think this is that noteworthy at all - if all you do is run and don't have any academic workload hindering you this progression should almost be expected, and sub 15 means nothing any more, even at the d3 level. Their roster size is also huge.
Looking at their 1, 10, and 19 runner:
1: 4:41 / 16:15 HS PR's
10: 17:03
19: 4:24 / 10:03 / 16:29
Yes, they have much more very low-end depth than Stanford or NAU (the first 2 schools that came to mind), but nowhere near the quality of front runners, or even mid / mid-back.
They aren't getting 8:45 kids out of high school. Their progress is amazing!
I agree that most of the times aren't noteworthy, but for a division 3 school who does not get top of the line recruits, it's their progression that is noteworthy.
And not that 19 and 21 are much different, but here are all 21 (from what I can see).
Going from 9:45 for the 3200m to 14:59 for 5000m in college should be expected from a dedicated athlete. Even 10:00 or so. Men's bodies continue to develop into their early 20s, and 2-3 years of higher mileage and aerobic development should help a 20 year old man run a third mile around the same pace he can already run two miles.
The difficult part from a coaches perspective is getting the boys up to mileage, keeping them there for 2-3 years, and making sure they don't lose interest due to increasing distractions like drinking and girls.
Wartburg College has 18 men under 15:00 in the 5k this outdoor season. Add in 3 other guys from indoor season and they're looking at 21 in total this season. They have more guys under 15 in the 5k than some teams even have people on their roster. Incredible depth and most likely incredible coaching as many of these athletes were not high school superstars.
That's great except 15 flat isn't good. Hope this helps.
Yall are hilariously, idiotically baffling. "15 minutes isn't good" "a D3 school with 20 sub 15:00's isn't noteworthy" stfu and appreciate the progression and times. Yes it is absolutely noteworthy. These are the kids who stuck with the sport and strived to become the best version of themselves.
so? wrote: their median time (for those under 15) is 14:46.92. I don't think this is that noteworthy at all - if all you do is run and don't have any academic workload hindering you this progression should almost be expected, and sub 15 means nothing any more, even at the d3 level.
this is such a typical letsrun take. the total amount of runners going sub-15 for 5K in the USA (which, running-wise, is WAY ahead of most countries on the planet) is still astronomically low - even at the collegiate level that time is a small minority (including D1, though obviously much more so for D3).
and "progression" from what? I'd say it'd be "expected" under those conditions if you ran something like a 9:20-30 3200 as a high school year just coming into his own.
your mental fixation on the top of the top of the top has blinded you to reality
Yall are hilariously, idiotically baffling. "15 minutes isn't good" "a D3 school with 20 sub 15:00's isn't noteworthy" stfu and appreciate the progression and times. Yes it is absolutely noteworthy. These are the kids who stuck with the sport and strived to become the best version of themselves.
Wartburg is very impressive but there are few D1 schools with less than 5. Granted, there may be less than 5 in tfrrs for current outdoor season but rosters are smaller and travel is greater which means some guys may run 1500 or steeple or 10k and not have opportunity for 5k.
Wartburg College has 18 men under 15:00 in the 5k this outdoor season. Add in 3 other guys from indoor season and they're looking at 21 in total this season. They have more guys under 15 in the 5k than some teams even have people on their roster. Incredible depth and most likely incredible coaching as many of these athletes were not high school superstars.
How do they have so many on the roster? a lot of D3 teams could do that if they had unlimited roster spots