He's slated to run the TCS World 10k Bengaluru on April 27th. Any change this means he realizes the marathon career is going horribly and he should return to the track in the 10,000?
rojo wrote:
He's slated to run the TCS World 10k Bengaluru on April 27th. Any change this means he realizes the marathon career is going horribly and he should return to the track in the 10,000?
Nothing about what others do, is bad news for Fisher. He’ll prepare himself to be in his best possible fitness for the WC, and he’ll be ready to compete with the best runners that show up.
rojo wrote:
He's slated to run the TCS World 10k Bengaluru on April 27th. Any change this means he realizes the marathon career is going horribly and he should return to the track in the 10,000?
Great news. Chep is 28 with enough juice for more World 10000m and XC medals and plenty of time ahead to figure out the marathon.
You can downvote him all you want, but Rojo's point is correct. If a stud like Chep returns to running the 10, it will make it a lot harder for anyone else to win those races.
That is just a fact.
That said, it is an assumption that Chep will return to the track just because he is running a 10km on the roads. That is why I think this "concern" is a bit premature. We'll have to wait and see if this means he is keying up for a track season.
Remember, the road races pay real money, so that could be reason enough to run a 10km...
rojo wrote:
He's slated to run the TCS World 10k Bengaluru on April 27th. Any change this means he realizes the marathon career is going horribly and he should return to the track in the 10,000?
Hmmm. I don't see this as a "return to 10k" focus. Don't most Marathoners want to do a 10k now and then?
I think Grant is even better this year and Cheptegei has less specific training. But Cheptegei still schooled everyone last year despite his bad marathon and Worlds is late, so he still has to be a favourite
Ruxton Towers XC wrote:
You can downvote him all you want, but Rojo's point is correct. If a stud like Chep returns to running the 10, it will make it a lot harder for anyone else to win those races.
That is just a fact.
That said, it is an assumption that Chep will return to the track just because he is running a 10km on the roads. That is why I think this "concern" is a bit premature. We'll have to wait and see if this means he is keying up for a track season.
Remember, the road races pay real money, so that could be reason enough to run a 10km...
I've gotta hand it to you, Ruxton.
you say some pretty stupid f*cking God da mn sh*t on this here world famous Web Site.
I don't think there is a runner on the planet that Grant Fisher can't compete with in 2025. He is fitter now than when he won two bronze medals at last year's Olympics and his kick seems to have improved. While I wouldn't say he is a lock for Gold at upcoming Worlds, he is currently a slight favorite regardless of who may compete!
Sheesh! What is so "stupid" about saying Chep is good at the 10km and that when he is in a race, that makes it hard for others (including Grant) to win that race?
p.s. I also said it is too soon to assume he'll go back to the track just because he is doing one 10km on the roads.
Ruxton Towers XC wrote:
Sheesh! What is so "stupid" about saying Chep is good at the 10km and that when he is in a race, that makes it hard for others (including Grant) to win that race?
p.s. I also said it is too soon to assume he'll go back to the track just because he is doing one 10km on the roads.
Why does anyone care about downvotes or replies? You are exactly correct. We don't go from Kara Goucher unable to control tears of disbelief, to Grant Fisher as favorite.
How many ever return successfully to the track? I'd guess the reason is that there is a lot more easy money to be had on the roads.
Grant Fisher will beat the brakes off anyone. He outkicked Cole Hocker. There is no bad news for Grant Fisher. Viva Grant!
Ruxton Towers XC wrote:
Sheesh! What is so "stupid" about saying Chep is good at the 10km and that when he is in a race, that makes it hard for others (including Grant) to win that race?
p.s. I also said it is too soon to assume he'll go back to the track just because he is doing one 10km on the roads.
It's the "bad news for Grant Fisher" troll which makes Rojo look appropriately stupid.
VIPAM wrote:
I don't think there is a runner on the planet that Grant Fisher can't compete with in 2025. He is fitter now than when he won two bronze medals at last year's Olympics and his kick seems to have improved. While I wouldn't say he is a lock for Gold at upcoming Worlds, he is currently a slight favorite regardless of who may compete!
Yes, and if Fisher wins 10,000m gold over a field that includes Cheptegei, that would make his victory even sweeter.
VIPAM wrote:
I don't think there is a runner on the planet that Grant Fisher can't compete with in 2025. He is fitter now than when he won two bronze medals at last year's Olympics and his kick seems to have improved. While I wouldn't say he is a lock for Gold at upcoming Worlds, he is currently a slight favorite regardless of who may compete!
Aregawi should be favored.
Fisher was right there behind the gold medalists in both 5k and 10k last summer. He is even faster this year in his closing speed, running a 1500m PR this indoor season, world record indoor 3k, and closing in 51ish in a tactical 5k over the weekend. We already know he can hang on to a fast pace like 26:30's or 12:40's. His kick is better than ever, he's in a good spot. I'd bet Cheptegei has actually lost some speed at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if he can't even get on the podium in the 5k, maybe not even the 10k depending on who runs it.
Aregawi > Fisher wrote:
Aregawi should be favored.
Agreed. Grant is a different animal this year but Aregawi is arguably almost competitive with Jakob (see how much he made him work for it at World Indoors 3k), and has faster PRs than Grant and a better kick over every distance. I think Grant can make it close but there's a distinct Aregawi-shaped barrier between him and a 10k gold right now.
air quality is so bad in India, I ran a few times while there but never hard at all... would never consider running a race there
Hot Takes wrote:
Fisher was right there behind the gold medalists in both 5k and 10k last summer. He is even faster this year in his closing speed, running a 1500m PR this indoor season, world record indoor 3k, and closing in 51ish in a tactical 5k over the weekend. We already know he can hang on to a fast pace like 26:30's or 12:40's. His kick is better than ever, he's in a good spot. I'd bet Cheptegei has actually lost some speed at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if he can't even get on the podium in the 5k, maybe not even the 10k depending on who runs it.
With all due respect, he was 1.47s behind Jakob...I wouldn't call that "right there behind." Nor would Coach Mike.
We can be pretty sure Cheptegei will not run the 5K, but he remains the man to beat in a track 10K if he contests it. Not a huge margin last year of .3, but his championship track record is enough. That being said, I wouldn't take much from him running a road 10K. What else makes sense for him to do around this timing? There are few big-money half marathons, and it's not yet time for a marathon.
He is defending World Champ, so the real concern is if he does a track race to shake off the rust. That would signal he's coming back.
rojo wrote:
He's slated to run the TCS World 10k Bengaluru on April 27th. Any change this means he realizes the marathon career is going horribly and he should return to the track in the 10,000?
His road career isn't going horribly at all.
He's just a step behind his countrymen kiplimo.
Grant Fisher is an amazing athlete and he's going to come in with the same mindset regardless of who is in the field. Why? Because that's what great athletes do.