LETSRUN, Rojo, Gault ONE of your posters has PERFECT solution to GST distance racing problem

I like it I think

By the way I met Michael Johnson when we ran in college but we were not the same race. I wouldn't be someone he remembers but he was pretty laid back and cool especially for a runner of his caliber.

Bump this up til it catches their attention, especially if you want to see better distance competition.

that will never work, because they will all go for it on the longer race, and sandbag on the shorter race. More to be gained that way.

The short race will matter as much as the 400 in a DMR.

To make it interesting, you have to entertain the viewers. People keep calling for a knockout race, last place eliminated each lap. Have a Devil referee to take the hindmost. In a 1500, the Devil can do this every 200m.

The Devil can poke them with a Nerf pitchfork, or other amusing weapons like a dye-filled water pistol.

This is sheer brilliance. Michael Johnson has been emphasizing don't focus on time.

You are telling him to make it solely about time

A runner can win the NCAA XC meet by 1 minute and the next 10 runners finish all within a second of one another. Only 1 point separates the 1st 2 runners even though a minute apart.

Then use a little bit of math.

Let’s say the winner won in 5:00.00. Consider him to be 100%.
Assume second place finished in 6:00.00 (I’m doing this for easy math), then his percentage is 120%.

Do the same for whatever additional events they’re running, and then you add the percentages together. Lowest percentage wins.

No, this idea is extremely silly, you would end up with the kind of dynamics you see in the decathlon 1500m, where the overall leader just needs to run a certain time (or beat another competitor by a certain number of seconds). EXTREMELY un-exciting, and hard to get people interested ("why is the first place runner not the winner?").

No idea why they don't just do an even split of prize money for both races + a significant bonus if the Day 1 winner also wins the Day 2 event.

It's just very clear nobody sat down and worked out the game theory of the prize money setup.

God, for me the biggest drawback of GST is how complicated we seem to be making this now. No more "just effing run and try to win". Now it's a silly ass chess game.

I don't blame Fischer for what he did today. He's smart. He figured it out.

But I hated it.

No. Downvote and disagree only because you’ve been crying and complaining with the others this whole weekend.

A lot of you are either just angry parasites with no love for track and field or jyou rude the short bus and stay in the same high school classroom all day- Special ED.

It would work:

5000m. Grant beat the top 5 by less than .5 to 2 seconds

meaning

3000m Grant couldn't let the top 5 finish more that ahead of him in he would have had to cover Hagos G moved at some point to bridge the time gap of more than 2 seconds.

COMBINING the times would force the field hand to cover the move when someone does what Hagos did in the 3000m.

Interesting idea. I don't think the way it is, is bad though. Track is about racing for place. We've been fortunate that some stellar athletes have decided the best way to do that is to run a fast time. The competitors probably won't let Fisher jog and kick in the 5 in Miami.

I don’t agree.
I don’t think it’s a great idea as I can see many variables where it would be more confusing.

I think a 5th Ave Mile-type of bonus prize at the halfway mark would be better - provided they finish the race.

Combining times is inelegant. It’s hard to aim for a certain time, especially relative to another runner, and times are even less the point of racing.

Let's use the mens 5000/3000m for combining times instead of just finishing order:

After the tight finish in the men's 5000m, Grant Fisher would have had to cover Hagos Give at some point to prevent him from such a large time gap; otherwise, Hagos would have won due to his 8 plus second victory in the 3000m.

I'd prefer adding bonuses based on the performance or something like the below to encourage faster racing:

100% of price money is paid if within 20% of WR

90% of price money is paid if within 25% of WR

75% of price money is guaranteed regardless of time.

Something has to be done.

Time is not everything, but I and my friends who watched have a hard time enjoying and appreciating the race when the times AND efforts are so much below ability ....