Nasdaq down 5.59% today

But it was like the one thing he said he would do. Fix the economy. Just use tariffs rather than things that work.

“I love tesler.”

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The economy isn't getting fixed in a few weeks or months.

Trump is aiming for a turn around by the midterms.

Tariffs do work. The people squealing about tariffs would tell you whatever the orange did was wrong no matter what he did.

Liberals must be crying! So much winning on a liberation day!

OK. You claim that commentary against tariffs is based solely or even primarily on loathing for Trump?

Apart from a very select application of tariffs, from what I’ve seen, the vast majority of economists currently against tariffs have been for free trade and against tariffs for their entire professional careers. In many, many cases, those careers pre-dated Trump’s entry into politics.

A number of pundits who have not been pro-Trump, especially those who are lifelong conservatives, have been opposed to him for many reasons, but one is that from the beginning of his candidacy in 2015, his bona fides as a policy maker and the economic policies themselves — like tariffs — were things they opposed. So you’d be disparaging them for having integrity of those views (if you can make a very, very good case for tariffs, you can call their consistency a foolish consistency, but that’s a very different argument from saying they are motivated by “Orange man bad” thinking or something like that).

But in terms of mindlessly falling in line, I am aware of the Heritage Foundation turning its collective back on 50 years of economic principle to kiss the ring. Whether tariffs are a good idea or not (I’d say that broad-based tariffs really, really are not), I don’t see any major examples on the anti-tariff side as apparently being so brazenly motivated by groupthink and partisanship as that.

How are you winning??? What's your retirement look like?

The GOP; only caring when their wallet is hurt.

Tariffs are the opposite of capitalism. They need to go away. If someone else has something at a good price that you want, get it from them. If not, get it yourself or somewhere else. No need for tariffs unless you get too reliant on someone else for something. You could argue we're there, sort of, but not for important things.

Anyone that doesn't mention that these are reciprocal tariffs is making a political argument not an economic argument.

The status quo was not free trade or fair trade.

Trump's goal is free trade.

Anyone who's retired or near retirement shouldn't be impacted at all by short term stock market fluctuations.

If you are you're doing it wrong.

Hey Eddy can you tell us how these are reciprocal and how these figures were determined?

Politicians are the gods of failing to fulfill their campaign promises and instead doing a bunch of random nonsense that nobody asked for.

…and thus I have no sympathy for you! MAGA f you and your mistakes.

You missed the part where these are RECIPROCAL tariffs only done against countries that have tariffs on us.

Show me the tariffs that Heard and McDonald Islands have on the US.

You mean like those anti-American penguins on the Heard and McDonald islands?

You see the numbers in the table released by the White House? George R.R. Martin doesn’t have as fantastical an imagination as whoever compiled that.

They are reciprocal in that they are being levied on countries that already have existing tariffs on US goods.

The media would have you believe 100% of these tariffs are being levied on countries with no existing tariffs. That is false.