He's obviously much faster now than in 2020; back then he was just barely starting to crack the 3:30 barrier in the 1500 and the 3:50 barrier in the mile; now he's run 3:26 and 3:43 (and 3:45 indoors).
My gut says 1:44 with the potential of cracking 1:44 in absolutely perfect conditions.
He's able to comfortably run a 52 second lap at the end of a mile and a 54 second lap at the end of a 3k. To think that all he'd be able to run a 52 second lap twice is not that far fetched IMO. Yes he's more of an endurance guy than a speed guy but he still has good enough speed to run 3:26 and close races extremely fast.
He's obviously much faster now than in 2020; back then he was just barely starting to crack the 3:30 barrier in the 1500 and the 3:50 barrier in the mile; now he's run 3:26 and 3:43 (and 3:45 indoors).
My gut says 1:44 with the potential of cracking 1:44 in absolutely perfect conditions.
He's able to comfortably run a 52 second lap at the end of a mile and a 54 second lap at the end of a 3k. To think that all he'd be able to run a 52 second lap twice is not that far fetched IMO. Yes he's more of an endurance guy than a speed guy but he still has good enough speed to run 3:26 and close races extremely fast.
We do have to note that in 2022 he ran 1:47.22 for the 800m 8 days before running 3:46.46 for the mile. I don't think conditions were great there, and the guys in front of him ran .5-2+s faster in short order.
Even so, I think while he was in 3:46 fitness he could only hit a 1:46 of some level. Now, he's 3 seconds faster. I bet he is typically in 1:45 shape, and could hit 1:44 though it would take good conditions and a good ride (not running extra distance/going out too slow). I'm still unsure of 1:43pt, but maybe.
Yup I am going in the 1.44s not sub. He is so strong that he definitely fits under the double your 800m time = 1500m time. Coe for example was 1.41~3.29 and was more speed based. Faith K is similar to Jakob.
I think he’s good for 1:44 but may only run 1:45 or even 1:46 in a one-off. I wish he’d try one while in peak 1500 shape, or at the very least run a time trial and put it on YouTube.
I absolutely believe that Jingy could run a 51.0, then another lap of 51 high. He'd do it like Cram did. Did Cram ever break 49 400m?
Cram ran an early season (April) relay leg in 47.5 according to an old issue of the British Milers Club mag - no, I’m not going to go theough old PDFs to hunt it down. It’s complete silliness - and wishful thinking of slow runners - to believe Cram couldn’t actually break 49. When he had the ‘Chariots of Fire’ race against Coe, Cram was awfully cloae to a sub 47 guy.
I absolutely believe that Jingy could run a 51.0, then another lap of 51 high. He'd do it like Cram did. Did Cram ever break 49 400m?
Cram ran an early season (April) relay leg in 47.5 according to an old issue of the British Milers Club mag - no, I’m not going to go theough old PDFs to hunt it down. It’s complete silliness - and wishful thinking of slow runners - to believe Cram couldn’t actually break 49. When he had the ‘Chariots of Fire’ race against Coe, Cram was awfully cloae to a sub 47 guy.
Ah yes! The Chariots Of Fire race in late '88, around 90 degree turns. That should settle a lot of things!!!
Really? 47.5? I'm surprised.
Anyway...
Here's another thing: People who are "good" at 1500m but "maybe suck a bit" in comparison at 800m can nearly always still be 2x800m time = 1500m time, right?
(Me 1:58.8/3:57.9) 😂
Show me some examples of those who could not, please. (Let me say Lagat before anyone else does - but his last 800m in Athens proved something!)
I'm willing to bet that 90% of everyone who ever raced a bunch of 800m / 1500m fits this formula.
He's obviously much faster now than in 2020; back then he was just barely starting to crack the 3:30 barrier in the 1500 and the 3:50 barrier in the mile; now he's run 3:26 and 3:43 (and 3:45 indoors).
My gut says 1:44 with the potential of cracking 1:44 in absolutely perfect conditions.
He's able to comfortably run a 52 second lap at the end of a mile and a 54 second lap at the end of a 3k. To think that all he'd be able to run a 52 second lap twice is not that far fetched IMO. Yes he's more of an endurance guy than a speed guy but he still has good enough speed to run 3:26 and close races extremely fast.