Was having a discussion on the SLR with some teammates about which elite athletes are you most convinced (past or present) were/are clean: specifically who is the highest performing clean athletes
Obv it's not about who you're favourite athlete is, but which elite athletes would you be willing to bet your life savings on being clean?
There are certain fan favourites that there is just too much doubt over, whether it be:
- Some consider a tainted group: NOP, Bowerman
- proximity to a popped athlete/training partners: Eliud's group, Dibaba family
- shared management/agent: too many to name
- banned Nations or vast history of doping: Russia, USSR, some old Chinese times, Kenya
- athletes everyone screams must've doped from crazy performances: ElG, Kiptum, Eliud, Bekele, Faith, Sifan, Chep'n'getich, Kiplimo, Gidey, P.Radcliffe, Chebet, Cheptegei, Hull, Hunter-Bell
- never received a ban, but we got dodgy news about them: Lagat, Amdouni, Makhloufi
The further you go back, the more difficult it can be to choose some names.
My suggestions:
- Nick Willis
- Pre
- Cam Levins
- Laura Weightman
- Jack Rayner & Brett Robinson
- Stephen Scullion
- Joe Klecker, Morgan McDonald, Beamish, Hoare, Nuguse
- Hocker & Teare
- Laura Muir
- Dina Asher Smith
- Chris Thompson
- Justyn Knight
- Keely
- Abdi Nur
Yes it's obvious I'm British.
Who else?
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Shelby Houlihan. No way she’s risking another ban.
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You don't know what you don't know. The only athletes I am convinced are clean are the ones I know well enough to have a solid judge of their character. I only personally know two of the people on your list and I'm pretty sure one of them is doping.
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and you know what he's going to say.
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I know Jim Ryun was clean. After that I have no idea. I do hope Grant is clean, but I would guess that all of the elites are in the gray zone.
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Ironically you’ve chosen a load of athletes who are barely tested, as they exist in the zone where their countries are not under scrutiny and they’re not good enough to warrant AIU RTP monitoring. Just an observation.
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Probably Nick Symmonds since his 800m times year-over-year were extremely consistent and slowly improved until the 2012 London Final, then slowly went back up again. His race-to-race performance could vary but overall seasonal performance was consistent.
We also know what he was doing in his non-running time, trying to get as much attention on himself as possible!
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Nia Akins, Luke Houser
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Anna Hall, Syd, Femke
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Hobbs Kessler
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Mo Katir, Christian Coleman, Ben Johnson, Jakob, Marion Jones, Addy Wiley, Marita Koch, Shelby, AlSal, Jarmila Kratochvílova
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Many of those are too good to be true. I'd remove all Olympic and World medalists from your list.
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This guy
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Mantz and Young
Sisson
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Grant MF Fisher. Guy is as pure as the driven snow.
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I wouldn’t bet money on anyone running sub 2:10 in the marathon
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Hocker 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Been said since his college days he's an obvious doper,just look at his massive jumps in PB's on certain years and compare them to the years he has minimal testing.
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Americans
Fisher, Kessler, Nuguse, Hoppel
Huddle, Coburn, Morgan, Valby, Kelati, Wiley, MacLean, Sisson, Akins, Houlihan (now, not 4 years ago)
Overall, I think the great majority of elites are clean but these ones I'm 100% certain are clean.
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Forgot our male marathons, Young and Mantz
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recent US list wrote:
Americans
Fisher, Kessler, Nuguse, Hoppel
Huddle, Coburn, Morgan, Valby, Kelati, Wiley, MacLean, Sisson, Akins, Houlihan (now, not 4 years ago)
Overall, I think the great majority of elites are clean but these ones I'm 100% certain are clean.
Explain how you’re 100% certain those athletes you listed are clean. I’m not suggesting they’re not clean but I want to know your logic of knowing that they are.
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