Every race with talent in it is utterly annihilating world records - at all distances. This is since COVID. I’m tired of it. Stop posting about it. The sun rose this morning and no one wrote about it.
I don't. I care about winning races. WR is meaningless with the big shift in tracks and shoes.
I'm with you. Records to me have always been mildly interesting and having them broken as often as they're doing doesn't enhance my interest that much, though the overall phenomenon is interesting. Wins and places are much more interesting.
Yeah, I think swimmers don't care anymore. Cyclists never cared except for the world hour record, but there have been so many variations of the rules that that is also meaningless. I stopped caring in running in the past 5ish years.
Outdoor track world records are still harder to come by. We also haven't had an official sub-2 marathon. Most of these records aren't as big as some people are making out.
When you think about it, it is no wonder that world records are going down. The weirder thing is that nobody was really running that fast from 2005-2020.
I mean do you really expect records from 20+ years ago to still be hanging around when we know so much more about the sport? We know 50x more about nutrition, training, recovery, plus every top pro these days basically has an entire team dedicated to making sure they cover distance on foot as fast as humanly possible.
The shoes are undoubtedly part of it, but technology advances as it always has. Nobody complained about people running faster when we shifted from cinders to Tartan to Mondo.
Now this HM world record specifically is obviously extremely strange. 1.3% improvements just shouldn’t be happening anymore. I suspect something is going on here, maybe the course was short or the drafting off the lead car.
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Every race with talent in it is utterly annihilating world records - at all distances. This is since COVID. I’m tired of it. Stop posting about it. The sun rose this morning and no one wrote about it.
I care way less about the road records now which have floated off into another dimension. Ruth's 2:09 was the final nail in the coffin. I'm still very interested in track records though as I think performances aren't quite as strongly affected by EPO, imo, and super-spikes seem to be less impactful than super-shoes. My view is that track performance is more strongly correlated with raw talent and road performances are more strongly correlated with EPO and insane mileage
when we know so much more about the sport? We know 50x more about nutrition, training, recovery,
No we don't. It's the shoes.
You genuinely don’t think our knowledge of the sport has progressed?
Come on now. In the 90s we knew next to nothing about proper nutrition. Do you remember “if the fire’s hot enough, anything burns?” We are training much smarter, running more volume with more quality. More kids than ever are going into the sport which increases the size of the talent pool. And the Internet allows all this information to be disseminated to everyone in the world. As I said, the shoes play a part but if you don’t acknowledge all the rest of this you are simply fooling yourself.
It pretty much depends on how into the sport is the individual.
I am deeply into sprinting, names like Howard Drew the first black to hold a sprint WR, Frank Lombardi tied the 100 WR in high school, Roscoe Cook 9,3, Oliver Ford 10.0, Frank Budd 9,2, Jim Hines first sub10.00, Herb Washington 5.8 erasing 22 cats at 5.9. Ivory Crockett 9.0 WR and on and on. WR's a real big deal in my opinion.
You genuinely don’t think our knowledge of the sport has progressed?
Come on now. In the 90s we knew next to nothing about proper nutrition. Do you remember “if the fire’s hot enough, anything burns?” We are training much smarter, running more volume with more quality. More kids than ever are going into the sport which increases the size of the talent pool. And the Internet allows all this information to be disseminated to everyone in the world. As I said, the shoes play a part but if you don’t acknowledge all the rest of this you are simply fooling yourself.
Yes, it has not.
95% of nutrition and training are just a never-ending cycle of fads like "double threshold."
Every race with talent in it is utterly annihilating world records - at all distances. This is since COVID. I’m tired of it. Stop posting about it. The sun rose this morning and no one wrote about it.
“Stop posting about it”.
No. Who do you think you are? Don’t tell us what to do.
You genuinely don’t think our knowledge of the sport has progressed?
Come on now. In the 90s we knew next to nothing about proper nutrition. Do you remember “if the fire’s hot enough, anything burns?” We are training much smarter, running more volume with more quality. More kids than ever are going into the sport which increases the size of the talent pool. And the Internet allows all this information to be disseminated to everyone in the world. As I said, the shoes play a part but if you don’t acknowledge all the rest of this you are simply fooling yourself.
Yes, it has not.
95% of nutrition and training are just a never-ending cycle of fads like "double threshold."
I will say I don't really care about marathon/half-marathon records and I didn't care before "sUpEr ShOeS". They are equivalent to XC records for me, way too course and condition dependent so why bother?