Quote comes from a great Q&A with him that was just published by AW. In it, he reveals he's ahead of where he thought he'd be and is taking indoors quite seriously, saying, "I’m hoping it’s not just a stepping stone for outdoors and it’s a good season in its own right."
Great read and an interesting take on how the sport can be grown beyond just the Olympics. It is a shame that indoors continues to be seen as a sideshow to outdoors, but he has a point that it doesn't have to always be that way.
I'm not convinced that road running, especially in its current form, is inherently any more exciting than indoor track or even XC. It's just a matter of the sport itself and the athletes themselves choosing to give it importance.
I hope that Jake manages to be a contender somehow this year, he's just very a likeable athlete and easy to root for all around.
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Jakob doesn’t have the speed. I don’t see anyone breaking a record. 3:26.7 and 3:26 are still quite far off, that’s 6 meters.
I think there is a good chance that Jakob will break the 1500m WR this year barring illness and injury.
It isn´t a question about speed. He only needs to be slightly stronger aerobically to run just under 55 per 400m for 3.75 laps. And he has improved aerobically every single year from he was 8-9 years old and will possibly continue to improve aerobically at least until his early thirties.
The mile WR will be even easier to break. We will get an indication for where he stands in Lievin Feb 13. I suppose he will be one level up as usual and that he with good pacing at least will go 3:44.5.
Jakob doesn’t have the speed. I don’t see anyone breaking a record. 3:26.7 and 3:26 are still quite far off, that’s 6 meters.
Lol!
- if you bothered to calculate 6 meters:
then you ought to bother calculate the average speed increase,assuming the increase leads to those 6 meters be evenly spread across 1500m(perfect paced race)
- then you can come back and say this pace is impossible for Jakob! 😉
I think there is a good chance that Jakob will break the 1500m WR this year barring illness and injury.
It isn´t a question about speed. He only needs to be slightly stronger aerobically to run just under 55 per 400m for 3.75 laps. And he has improved aerobically every single year from he was 8-9 years old and will possibly continue to improve aerobically at least until his early thirties.
The mile WR will be even easier to break. We will get an indication for where he stands in Lievin Feb 13. I suppose he will be one level up as usual and that he with good pacing at least will go 3:44.5.
It is a question of speed. His opening 800 lap is not even 52. He had an opportunity to break the record at the Olympic Games, the pace he set was very fast. Can he possibly break the record with pacesetters? So far evidence shows he can’t make that kick except if the pace is 58-59 like in a 3k. This distance is not a blessing for him. Maybe if there was an event called the 1700 I would put all bets on him to win 90 percent of the time let alone break the record. Thats how difficult this record is right now
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I am a fan of this guy he is obviously putting himself on the greatest of all time list but his dominance lies in the 3-5k. Are we really that confident a man who has been defeated multiple times in an event where he was in the best shape of his life can break a record in ? Sure he has some chance because there are many attempts
.187s per 400m, that's all he has to drop to get this record. He doesn't have to improve his speed for that. To win championships without pacing fodder like in 2021, he needs to improve his change of gear, but for the 1500m record, he just needs another year of slightly improved threshold paces, as he has gotten each year for ten years. I'd agree, though, that he needs to start a bit slower and pick up, maybe 55.5/55 (1:50.5, about 0.7s off of record pace) and then he has it if he can manage 55/40.3. That's 2:45.5/3:25.8.
I think there is a good chance that Jakob will break the 1500m WR this year barring illness and injury.
It isn´t a question about speed. He only needs to be slightly stronger aerobically to run just under 55 per 400m for 3.75 laps. And he has improved aerobically every single year from he was 8-9 years old and will possibly continue to improve aerobically at least until his early thirties.
The mile WR will be even easier to break. We will get an indication for where he stands in Lievin Feb 13. I suppose he will be one level up as usual and that he with good pacing at least will go 3:44.5.
It is a question of speed. His opening 800 lap is not even 52. He had an opportunity to break the record at the Olympic Games, the pace he set was very fast. Can he possibly break the record with pacesetters? So far evidence shows he can’t make that kick except if the pace is 58-59 like in a 3k. This distance is not a blessing for him. Maybe if there was an event called the 1700 I would put all bets on him to win 90 percent of the time let alone break the record. Thats how difficult this record is right now
Don´t you read your posts before pressing the reply button? ..................opening 800m LAP!? not even 52!? Do you mean 1:52?
Of course his WR attempt should be in a race paced ideally to 1100m. In the Olympic 1500m final he lost at least 2 sec compared to a paced DL race where he only has to frontrun the last 400-500m.
And as stated by another poster: He shouldn´t kick in a WR race but hold a high even pace possibly with a slight negative split.
It is a question of speed. His opening 800 lap is not even 52. He had an opportunity to break the record at the Olympic Games, the pace he set was very fast. Can he possibly break the record with pacesetters? So far evidence shows he can’t make that kick except if the pace is 58-59 like in a 3k. This distance is not a blessing for him. Maybe if there was an event called the 1700 I would put all bets on him to win 90 percent of the time let alone break the record. Thats how difficult this record is right now
Don´t you read your posts before pressing the reply button? ..................opening 800m LAP!? not even 52!? Do you mean 1:52?
Of course his WR attempt should be in a race paced ideally to 1100m. In the Olympic 1500m final he lost at least 2 sec compared to a paced DL race where he only has to frontrun the last 400-500m.
And as stated by another poster: He shouldn´t kick in a WR race but hold a high even pace possibly with a slight negative split.
I will add that Jakob in the DL Monaco 1500m ran about 55.40 for the first 400m, about 1: 50.80 for the 800m and 2:46.37 for the 1200m. The last 400m was about 54.30 and last 300m in 40.37.
As average he ran 55 per 400m so really not far away from having the necessary pace for the WR (as also pointed out by other posters in this thread.
.187s per 400m, that's all he has to drop to get this record. He doesn't have to improve his speed for that. To win championships without pacing fodder like in 2021, he needs to improve his change of gear, but for the 1500m record, he just needs another year of slightly improved threshold paces, as he has gotten each year for ten years. I'd agree, though, that he needs to start a bit slower and pick up, maybe 55.5/55 (1:50.5, about 0.7s off of record pace) and then he has it if he can manage 55/40.3. That's 2:45.5/3:25.8.
Dun make me laugh my pants down sir!!!!! You think .187s is all it is lol??????? Then why isn't he running that time in Paris, Zurich, Bruxelles or everyday tell me dear????????????
Do you understand physics dear?????? Do you not know that .187s per lap could be literally be the equivalent of 2 times the total volume rate of flow of blood that needs to be recirculated through the aorta or twice the rate of blood flow velocity needed which is exponentially correlated with even higher increases of perceived gravity in the body which then needs to somehow disappear for Jakob to make up this deficit?????????
I think there is a good chance that Jakob will break the 1500m WR this year barring illness and injury.
It isn´t a question about speed. He only needs to be slightly stronger aerobically to run just under 55 per 400m for 3.75 laps. And he has improved aerobically every single year from he was 8-9 years old and will possibly continue to improve aerobically at least until his early thirties.
The mile WR will be even easier to break. We will get an indication for where he stands in Lievin Feb 13. I suppose he will be one level up as usual and that he with good pacing at least will go 3:44.5.
It is a question of speed. His opening 800 lap is not even 52. He had an opportunity to break the record at the Olympic Games, the pace he set was very fast. Can he possibly break the record with pacesetters? So far evidence shows he can’t make that kick except if the pace is 58-59 like in a 3k. This distance is not a blessing for him. Maybe if there was an event called the 1700 I would put all bets on him to win 90 percent of the time let alone break the record. Thats how difficult this record is right now
Correct correct correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jakob is already eternally jinxed for the 1500m event!!!!!!!!!!! So sorry folks!!!!!!!! Really!!!!!!!!!!! Gotta wait on my boy Josh Kerr to do it instead!!!!!!!!!!
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