Ncaa mile record on watch at BU

I think it's gonna go down.

People love to hype up the super stacked fields but it's almost always the solo attempts with 1-2 fast guys in the field. Super fast heats always bunch up, people trip, and no one ever tries to take the lead because they want to win.

Sahlman ran 3:52 here last year, is obviously in good shape, and honestly just has the x-factor of being Colin Sahlman in a mile.

Strand went from 7:46 to 7:30 in a year, and already ran 3:54 last year. I honestly don't even want to know how much time you are gonna drop off your mile based on a 16 second 3k PR like that.

whats the current mile record?

3:50.39 Cooper Teare

Sahlman ran 3:53.17 there last year, not 3:52. That said 3:50.38 is challenging, but not out of reach, I would think.

I have heard this every year for the last four years and it has not happened

Yeah. The Oregon boys made it look easy, but it was paced spectacularly.

It's just a number. Regardless of whether the record goes down this should be an amazing race. The record obsession is annoying

tbf Essayi ran 3:50.46 in 2023, so it was real close. Green almost had it with his 3:50.74 too like a week ago.

It might not happen at this meet, but there's certainly a good chance that it does. At least, as good a chance as any early season meet. You might be underestimating Strand and his 7:30. From the interviews I saw after his 7:30, he sounded super excited and motivated to crush it this year, and since Wolfe isn't entered, I imagine they think Strand is REALLY ready to run fast, otherwise he wouldn't be racing BU (he'd never run there before December). Whether that pans out to a CR is impossible to say, but with Sahlman to push him, I think if one of them keeps the pace going once the pacer drops, the record goes down. I think 3:49.8-3:51.5 is the most likely, with 3:48 low and 3:52 being on the table.

I still have that image in my head of Wolfe and Strand flying away from 2 of the best runners in the country, who also broke the 3k CR, on their way to 7:30, closing in like 26. That, more than anything, makes me feel like the record goes down. I want Strand to break it because his HS was like 15 minutes from mine, and we're the same age so I watched him win every race for 5 years straight, but Sahlman has had a crazy improvement curve, and he just ran a 400m pb, so he's in great shape and I wouldn't count him out either. There might be more guys in there too, it's just hard to pick out all the names right now lol

Bro it's BU the whole point of going there is to run fast. This is like the one place where athletes don't always say "I just wanted to get out there and compete" and they actually target fast times. For races like Millrose, you'll hear athletes say (I think Kessler said this recently) they'd rather win in 3:53 than come 2nd in 3:46 (under the WR), because winning Millrose matters. For BU, more often people are chasing qualifying times, and the win is just a cherry on top. If the best guys in the country, and current CR holder(s) are targeting fast times, it should be expected that people would get excited about records potentially going down.

But I think you're right that it'll be an amazing race regardless of whether the record goes down or not. I think it's fine and fun to hype up a race if there's potential of a record getting broken, so long as you don't lose all interest in a race if the record doesn't go down.

If it gets beat then the 2025 spikes must be way better than the 2021 spikes. The only way to run faster is if shoes get better

I think people are slightly underestimating what 3:50.x is...Murphy has been better than Strand at 1500 a couple of times and was barely behind him in XC. I follow Murphy quite closely and think he is real good, I am not sure he is a sub 3:52.00 guy yet( I do think he is closer than what he just ran). As Scotty would say , you are what you've run. So, I would not think Strand is any better than Murphy. I guess we will see, 3:50.39 or faster, is fast any time it is run.

Brainiac remark!

back when Oregon was actually good

You are what you run, yes - and Ethan just ran 7:30. He's a level above Murphy at the moment, he took a bigger step since last year

The boring and perhaps most realistic answer is to say Farken will win in 3:50-low or mid and the collegians will run between 3:50.5-3:52. Then again, that same logical assessment would have put Wolfe and Strand at 7:35-7:40. Collegians are getting better, and it's not crazy to think the cream of the crop can break Teare's record, as Green/Spencer have run faster (1500m converted) already. BU is as good a place is any, it'd more just be will the pacing be good, and how sharp are these guys.

He certainly is not a level above Murphy, he beat him by 1.3 over 10K last time they raced. Murphy is 2-1 vs. him counting two 1500M's . And he(Murphy) is four seconds faster at the mile.. .7 slower in a Non TT Trials race than Strand's at 1500M PR, and 26 seconds faster at 5K so far(I am sure Strand can run much faster than his existing 13:30's PR). At worst, they are a wash. I would be shocked in Murphy off his 13:10 and recent mile cannot put together a 7:30 or low in the right set up like they had at BU.

Colin’s 3:33 outdoors last year converts to a 3:50 low. BU is as fast as any outdoor track. I say they get it.

Knew that and it does. BU is insanely fast, The best mile ever there is still only marginally(.83) faster than the Armory's and still 3.x off, almost 4 off the Outdoor record.

Gregorek broke 3:50 indoors. These guys can do it.