"I think everyone but Jakob has a really good kick, but Jakob is normally too far ahead to catch anyway"
Love Hobbs, glad he's looking to be in contention this year. I still think he's gonna win gold in 2028, and it's a good sign that he's confident enough in himself and his training to think he can make it to the next level (ie where the top 4 are).
I'm a big Hobbs fan, but I'm not sure I buy that his kick is any better than Jakob's. The narrative that Jakob can't close races well is way overblown.
interesting, I did not know that Warhurst's role had now diminished and that Pat Henner was now in the picture, and seemingly for much of the last year. he has built a team for himself.
How incredibly different from another young adidas signee.
I'm a big Hobbs fan, but I'm not sure I buy that his kick is any better than Jakob's. The narrative that Jakob can't close races well is way overblown.
Jakob does not have the acceleration that some of these guys have. He can kick OK if he wants to follow because of his supreme fitness, but his acceleration is not truly elite. These guys who race him know this.
I'm a big Hobbs fan, but I'm not sure I buy that his kick is any better than Jakob's. The narrative that Jakob can't close races well is way overblown.
This. Jakob is no Hocker but he can kick just fine. Didn’t he put like 2 seconds on Cole and Hobbs in the final 200 in Lausanne?
Positioning, strategy and intelligence are key in a field of 1500 guys separated by 6 seconds or less in PRs. Taking that olympic race wire to wire ain't happening unless you're running a WR and/or have the best kick.
"I think everyone but Jakob has a really good kick, but Jakob is normally too far ahead to catch anyway"
Love Hobbs, glad he's looking to be in contention this year. I still think he's gonna win gold in 2028, and it's a good sign that he's confident enough in himself and his training to think he can make it to the next level (ie where the top 4 are).
I'm a big Hobbs fan, but I'm not sure I buy that his kick is any better than Jakob's. The narrative that Jakob can't close races well is way overblown.
This. Jakob is no Hocker but he can kick just fine. Didn’t he put like 2 seconds on Cole and Hobbs in the final 200 in Lausanne?
I'm a big Hobbs fan, but I'm not sure I buy that his kick is any better than Jakob's. The narrative that Jakob can't close races well is way overblown.
this. A 3:26 guy can almost certainly close a 3:34 in 51 seconds. Which he has done. Is that not a good kick?
I'm a big Hobbs fan, but I'm not sure I buy that his kick is any better than Jakob's. The narrative that Jakob can't close races well is way overblown.
Jakob does not have the acceleration that some of these guys have. He can kick OK if he wants to follow because of his supreme fitness, but his acceleration is not truly elite. These guys who race him know this.
I'm a big Hobbs fan, but I'm not sure I buy that his kick is any better than Jakob's. The narrative that Jakob can't close races well is way overblown.
this. A 3:26 guy can almost certainly close a 3:34 in 51 seconds. Which he has done. Is that not a good kick?
exactly. he closed a 3:34 in 51 seconds, while waving his arms in the air and running near lane 3 on the backstretch to pass 7 other guys. Of course he has a good kick.
though i wonder if that kind of running in the semi might have cost him a little in the final.
exactly. he closed a 3:34 in 51 seconds, while waving his arms in the air and running near lane 3 on the backstretch to pass 7 other guys. Of course he has a good kick.
though i wonder if that kind of running in the semi might have cost him a little in the final.
The splits were incorrect. He did go under 53s with a lot in lane 2. It is true his acceleration isn’t the fastest, but Id say there’s a max speed Q and an acceleration distinction. A couple guys have both, and a few guys have neither.
this. A 3:26 guy can almost certainly close a 3:34 in 51 seconds. Which he has done. Is that not a good kick?
exactly. he closed a 3:34 in 51 seconds, while waving his arms in the air and running near lane 3 on the backstretch to pass 7 other guys. Of course he has a good kick.
though i wonder if that kind of running in the semi might have cost him a little in the final.
exactly. he closed a 3:34 in 51 seconds, while waving his arms in the air and running near lane 3 on the backstretch to pass 7 other guys. Of course he has a good kick.
though i wonder if that kind of running in the semi might have cost him a little in the final.
The splits were incorrect. He did go under 53s with a lot in lane 2. It is true his acceleration isn’t the fastest, but Id say there’s a max speed Q and an acceleration distinction. A couple guys have both, and a few guys have neither.
the splits have him under 51, which is wrong. he was under 52. that is correct.
exactly. he closed a 3:34 in 51 seconds, while waving his arms in the air and running near lane 3 on the backstretch to pass 7 other guys. Of course he has a good kick.
though i wonder if that kind of running in the semi might have cost him a little in the final.
The splits were incorrect. He did go under 53s with a lot in lane 2. It is true his acceleration isn’t the fastest, but Id say there’s a max speed Q and an acceleration distinction. A couple guys have both, and a few guys have neither.
Until proven otherwise, the kick available at the end of a 1500 like the Paris final is not a consequence of some innate ability that say Hocker possesses but Jakob does not. Rather if you measured the top 5 runners lactate, HR, respiratory rate, subjective feeling of exhaustion with 100 meters to go, you are going to be able to pick the winner. On that day in Paris Jakob was compromised because he led most of the way. That’s why he lost, not because he can’t kick. If Hocker had traded roles in the race with Jakob, it would be Hocker that was kicked down at the end.
I'm a big Hobbs fan, but I'm not sure I buy that his kick is any better than Jakob's. The narrative that Jakob can't close races well is way overblown.
Exactly. Jakob does not have a kick problem, he has a tactics problem. Kerr, Hocker, Nuguse would all lose just as often if they tried to solo every race.
Next year if he finally realizes he can’t be the field’s personal pacemaker, he will win like El G in 2004. What a race that was.
I'm a big Hobbs fan, but I'm not sure I buy that his kick is any better than Jakob's. The narrative that Jakob can't close races well is way overblown.
Exactly. Jakob does not have a kick problem, he has a tactics problem. Kerr, Hocker, Nuguse would all lose just as often if they tried to solo every race.
Next year if he finally realizes he can’t be the field’s personal pacemaker, he will win like El G in 2004. What a race that was.
It’s certainly possible that Hocker or Kerr might be faster than Jakob over a 100 meters with a running start with all of them totally fresh with a baseline lactate and low HR, but that irrelevant for the last 100 in a race like Paris. Whoever is redlining the least and has the shortest distance left to race will win. Jakob keeps insisting he can lead most of the way and still have the best physiological parameters at the end, and so far that has not been the case.
Exactly. Jakob does not have a kick problem, he has a tactics problem. Kerr, Hocker, Nuguse would all lose just as often if they tried to solo every race.
Next year if he finally realizes het a race that was.It’s certainly possible that Hocker or K can’t be the field’s personal pacemaker, he will win like El G in 2004. l hat a race that was.
It’s certainly possible that Hocker or Kerr might be faster than Jakob over a 100 meters with a running start with all of them totally fresh with a baseline lactate and low HR, but that irrelevant for the last 100 in a race like Paris. Whoever is redlining the least and has the shortest distance left to race will win. Jakob keeps insisting he can lead most of the way and still have the best physiological parameters at the end, and so far that has not been the case.
yup. the field has leveled up. it's entirely possible that what jakob did in 2024 was good enough to win in 22 and 23, but those days are over.
I think Hocker has something special on a final lap, or even accelerating in an instant over the last 100. but I don't think anybody else out there has something special that jakob is missing.