Four demands : (1) the disclosure and suspension and coaches and agents linked to athletes who test positive for doping, (2) enhanced testing, particularly in East Africa, (3) reporting back on the enhanced testing on a half yearly basis and (4) to immediately suspend all athletes from competition for the balance of a calendar year from any country that has more than 10 of its athletes test positive during the calendar year.
1 is awesome. 1 would mean Sang banned, Schumacher banned, Rosa banned, Reider banned... That would wake up quite a few naive fans.
2 - 3: more transparency, great!
4 - I dunno. That may backfire, providing yet another incentive for NADOs to cover up positive tests / not test its suspicious athletes / give warning calls to its suspicious athletes.
Four demands : (1) the disclosure and suspension and coaches and agents linked to athletes who test positive for doping, (2) enhanced testing, particularly in East Africa, (3) reporting back on the enhanced testing on a half yearly basis and (4) to immediately suspend all athletes from competition for the balance of a calendar year from any country that has more than 10 of its athletes test positive during the calendar year.
Four demands : (1) the disclosure and suspension and coaches and agents linked to athletes who test positive for doping, (2) enhanced testing, particularly in East Africa, (3) reporting back on the enhanced testing on a half yearly basis and (4) to immediately suspend all athletes from competition for the balance of a calendar year from any country that has more than 10 of its athletes test positive during the calendar year.
Four demands : (1) the disclosure and suspension and coaches and agents linked to athletes who test positive for doping, (2) enhanced testing, particularly in East Africa, (3) reporting back on the enhanced testing on a half yearly basis and (4) to immediately suspend all athletes from competition for the balance of a calendar year from any country that has more than 10 of its athletes test positive during the calendar year.
This has been in the works for a few weeks now. I was an early signer. It's getting a fair few signatures from big names of earlier years. I know one of the things the authors want is a response from World Athletics. Does anyone want to bet on whether they'll get one or not?
Four demands : (1) the disclosure and suspension and coaches and agents linked to athletes who test positive for doping, (2) enhanced testing, particularly in East Africa, (3) reporting back on the enhanced testing on a half yearly basis and (4) to immediately suspend all athletes from competition for the balance of a calendar year from any country that has more than 10 of its athletes test positive during the calendar year.
This has been in the works for a few weeks now. I was an early signer. It's getting a fair few signatures from big names of earlier years. I know one of the things the authors want is a response from World Athletics. Does anyone want to bet on whether they'll get one or not?
At 351 signatures as of now - no way. If it grows to 3510 today, still no. At 35100, probably not, but possible. This needs to be over 100x more popular for WA to think about caring.
Point 4 seems iffy as nations like Kenya, India, and the US routinely have more than 10 athletes test positive.
I'm with you here, not sure what to make of #4. I am pretty sure that there's a lot of covering up of failed tests by national governing bodies and I could see #4 leading to a lot more covering up.
Whether 4 is valid and doable should not take from the effort for change. He is requesting four changes. I am sure many people would be happy with advancement of any of the four….
Four demands : (1) the disclosure and suspension and coaches and agents linked to athletes who test positive for doping, (2) enhanced testing, particularly in East Africa, (3) reporting back on the enhanced testing on a half yearly basis and (4) to immediately suspend all athletes from competition for the balance of a calendar year from any country that has more than 10 of its athletes test positive during the calendar year.
Number 1 needs to be a recurring situation. I can definitely see an instance in which an athlete cheats on their own without assistance from the coach or agent, but if this happens repeatedly, it would make it much more likely that the coach or agent is involved.
I'm not in favour of number 4 at all. Collective punishment just creates more injustice. Not to mention that some countries are far bigger and more decentralized than others. Therefore, it isn't outside the realms of possibilty that a single training group - in one small pocket of a country - may get popped one day, and then everyone else (who has nothing to do with them) are penalised simply by existing inside the same arbitrary border.
Four demands : (1) the disclosure and suspension and coaches and agents linked to athletes who test positive for doping, (2) enhanced testing, particularly in East Africa, (3) reporting back on the enhanced testing on a half yearly basis and (4) to immediately suspend all athletes from competition for the balance of a calendar year from any country that has more than 10 of its athletes test positive during the calendar year.
Number 1 needs to be a recurring situation. I can definitely see an instance in which an athlete cheats on their own without assistance from the coach or agent, but if this happens repeatedly, it would make it much more likely that the coach or agent is involved.
I'm not in favour of number 4 at all. Collective punishment just creates more injustice. Not to mention that some countries are far bigger and more decentralized than others. Therefore, it isn't outside the realms of possibilty that a single training group - in one small pocket of a country - may get popped one day, and then everyone else (who has nothing to do with them) are penalised simply by existing inside the same arbitrary border.
Coaches should be able to identify their dopers before the AIU or NADO does. Agents, yes, maybe after 5 popped athletes?
5) Have all NADOs and the AIU publish their testing history like USADA (tests per quarter for each athlete, see
6) Publish all missed tests along with the explanation.
7) Then dismantle the NADOs and give the money and resources to the AIU.
8) Reanalyze the samples of places 1 - 6 of all Olympic and World competitions before their "legal" expiry, not just the ones hand-chosen by WA/IOC etc.
9) Reinvestigate the 2015 IAAF/WADA scandal by a truly independent committee.
Whether 4 is valid and doable should not take from the effort for change. He is requesting four changes. I am sure many people would be happy with advancement of any of the four….
Seems very dangerous. I’m British. If he’s concerned let’s start by publicly disclosing any British cover ups in the past 50 years. also how one of our sprinters passed all those test only to fail one at a major games.
also exceeds female potential performance. So did the 4 minute mile. Are we banning anyone who’s run sub 4 as well.
you no what’s almost never mentioned. That the first woman to run sub 2.10 improved the world record less than the first man to run sub 2.10.
Four demands : (1) the disclosure and suspension and coaches and agents linked to athletes who test positive for doping, (2) enhanced testing, particularly in East Africa, (3) reporting back on the enhanced testing on a half yearly basis and (4) to immediately suspend all athletes from competition for the balance of a calendar year from any country that has more than 10 of its athletes test positive during the calendar year.
plus don't announce a bust until B sample confirms, meanwhile the athlete silently sits agreeing.
add in south africa and botswana as well.
maximize punishment major abuse
minimize punishment minor abuse
minor abuse would be the minor consumption of a banned substance where there is NO POSSIBILITY or scenario that drug could enhance performance.
for example a boxer tested clean 3 weeks out, then was popped on the weigh in, for pico grams of a substance that is a very week PED, something like 100x less than testosterone. where the total anabolic effect in this case must be near zero, based on the test.
Seems very dangerous. I’m British. If he’s concerned let’s start by publicly disclosing any British cover ups in the past 50 years. also how one of our sprinters passed all those test only to fail one at a major games.
also exceeds female potential performance. So did the 4 minute mile. Are we banning anyone who’s run sub 4 as well.
you no what’s almost never mentioned. That the first woman to run sub 2.10 improved the world record less than the first man to run sub 2.10.
Ya its a total mess. everybody know, except a small vocal fraction on letsrun.
Brit sprinters are on the juice, like Jamaica, Canada were, and everyone else.
And the Africans are on the juice big time in the middle to long distances,
The richer countries are into grey area PEDs and micro dosing and new legal PEDS.
A natural 4:00 1500 chick can break 350...
and that's what we have, and always have had in women's world records, that is since women gave enough of a damn to cheat.
thats what the documentation says, thats what the coaches say, thats what the athletes say, thats what the testing says.
