Yared Nuguse has 5 of the top 6 times in U.S. history in the 1500. Amazing!
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Didn't Lagat run 3:27.40?
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Lagat > Hocker > Nuguse wrote:
Didn't Lagat run 3:27.40?
Lagat was representing Kenya at the time. Mondo Duplantis was born in the U.S. and has American citizenship, but his pole vault marks don't count as U.S. records because he represents Sweden.
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Lagat > Hocker > Nuguse wrote:
Didn't Lagat run 3:27.40?
Lagat was still running in a Kenyan singlet when he posted that result. He eventually became an American but he was not actually an American like Nuguse.
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3:27.40 Bernard Lagat (Nike) 8/25/05
3:27.65 Cole Hocker (Nike) 8/6/24
3:27.80 Yared Nuguse (On AC) 8/6/24
3:29.45 Hobbs Kessler (adidas) 8/6/24
3:29.77 Sydney Maree (Puma) 8/25/85
3:30.40 Matthew Centrowitz (Nike) 7/17/15
3:30.54 Alan Webb (Nike) 7/06/07
3:30.90 Andrew Wheating (Oregon) 7/22/10
3:30.98 Leo Manzano (Hoka) 7/18/14
3:31.01 Jim Spivey (Athletics West) 8/28/88He has run faster than 3:29.45 five times? Really? And even so, he can only be as high as 3rd all time.
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thread jumper wrote:
He has run faster than 3:29.45 five times? Really? And even so, he can only be as high as 3rd all time.
Yes, really. He's run:
- 3:27.80
- 3:29.02
- 3:29.10
- 3:29.13
- 3:29.21
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Googled this about Lagat US records.
Why did Roisin Willis make such a mistake and choose to represent the US? She ran 1:59.1 and could have breezed to global teams for Ireland. If I had dual citizenship / the right to compete for another country (obviously excluding Kenya and Ethiopia) I'd almost certainly compete for them
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McRunnin wrote:
Yared Nuguse has 5 of the top 6 times in U.S. history in the 1500. Amazing!
Yared deserves a ton of credit for being at the forefront of the US 1500 revolution over the last few years. I think Centro showed everyone what was possible but prior to Nuguse no American man broken 3:30 for 18 years, and no American-born man had ever broken 3:30.
Yared was the first of now three to do so, and has raised US distance running to a whole new level as a result. I really do believe that a collegian, perhaps even two, will break 3:30 this year as well as a whole host of American pros.
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switching teams wrote:
Googled this about Lagat US records.
Why did Roisin Willis make such a mistake and choose to represent the US? She ran 1:59.1 and could have breezed to global teams for Ireland. If I had dual citizenship / the right to compete for another country (obviously excluding Kenya and Ethiopia) I'd almost certainly compete for them
Probably because she was born and raised in the US and loves her country?
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Ruxton Towers XC wrote:
Lagat > Hocker > Nuguse wrote:
Didn't Lagat run 3:27.40?
Lagat was still running in a Kenyan singlet when he posted that result. He eventually became an American but he was not actually an American like Nuguse.
Lagat ran in a Kenyan singlet after becoming an American citizen.
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Nuguse is also 1, 2, 4, and 6 in the mile!
One of my favorite features of the World Athletics Stats Zone is it lets users look at all-time lists as they stood at a particular point in time. I just went through the lists to see if I could find years since Jim Ryun's era when an American miler/1500 guy dominated the all-time list like Nuguse now. Here are the best examples I found, in chronological order starting with Ryun:
- 1972: Jim Ryun was 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, & 10 in the mile.
- 1981: Steve Scott was 1, 4, 6, 8, & 10 in the 1500.
- 1985: Sydney Maree was 1, 2, 5, 6, 9, 10, & 11 in the 1500 (Scott was 3, 4, 7, & 8).
- 1986: Steve Scott was 1, 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, & 10 in the mile (Maree was 4, 5, 7, & 11).
- 1997: Steve Holman was 4, 5, 8, 9, & 11 in the 1500.
- 2006: Bernard Lagat was 1, 2, 4, 6, 7, & 9 in the 1500.
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mictlantecuhtli wrote:
switching teams wrote:
Googled this about Lagat US records.
Why did Roisin Willis make such a mistake and choose to represent the US? She ran 1:59.1 and could have breezed to global teams for Ireland. If I had dual citizenship / the right to compete for another country (obviously excluding Kenya and Ethiopia) I'd almost certainly compete for them
Probably because she was born and raised in the US and loves her country?
I’d switch if I had dual citizenship. I care about me above all.
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mictlantecuhtli wrote:
McRunnin wrote:
Yared Nuguse has 5 of the top 6 times in U.S. history in the 1500. Amazing!
Yared deserves a ton of credit for being at the forefront of the US 1500 revolution over the last few years. I think Centro showed everyone what was possible but prior to Nuguse no American man broken 3:30 for 18 years, and no American-born man had ever broken 3:30.
Yared was the first of now three to do so, and has raised US distance running to a whole new level as a result. I really do believe that a collegian, perhaps even two, will break 3:30 this year as well as a whole host of American pros.
Yeah, but... the super spikes and super training shoes, and wave lights.
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McRunnin wrote:
Yared Nuguse has 5 of the top 6 times in U.S. history in the 1500. Amazing!
But can he do it clean?
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McRunnin wrote:
Lagat > Hocker > Nuguse wrote:
Didn't Lagat run 3:27.40?
Lagat was representing Kenya at the time. Mondo Duplantis was born in the U.S. and has American citizenship, but his pole vault marks don't count as U.S. records because he represents Sweden.
Indeed.
In addition to 3:27.40 in 2004, Lagat also ran 3:26.34 in 2001. I am not sure when Lagat started the transition to (trying to be) a US athlete.
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mictlantecuhtli wrote:
McRunnin wrote:
Yared Nuguse has 5 of the top 6 times in U.S. history in the 1500. Amazing!
Yared deserves a ton of credit for being at the forefront of the US 1500 revolution over the last few years. I think Centro showed everyone what was possible but prior to Nuguse no American man broken 3:30 for 18 years, and no American-born man had ever broken 3:30.
Yared was the first of now three to do so, and has raised US distance running to a whole new level as a result. I really do believe that a collegian, perhaps even two, will break 3:30 this year as well as a whole host of American pros.
Cole Hocker won the Paris 1500m because Nguse broke 3:30 last year? Rather than a revolution, it’s having three ultra talented runners at the same time.
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mictlantecuhtli wrote:
switching teams wrote:
Googled this about Lagat US records.
Why did Roisin Willis make such a mistake and choose to represent the US? She ran 1:59.1 and could have breezed to global teams for Ireland. If I had dual citizenship / the right to compete for another country (obviously excluding Kenya and Ethiopia) I'd almost certainly compete for them
Probably because she was born and raised in the US and loves her country?
The old, "Love of ones country" bollocks. What does this even mean in the context of an obscure spot?
If someone was a footballer, and they could play for France (and in the World Cup), or the US (and stay home), would, "love of one's county" oblige them to play for the crappy team? Why?
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Kickers usually win wrote:
mictlantecuhtli wrote:
Yared deserves a ton of credit for being at the forefront of the US 1500 revolution over the last few years. I think Centro showed everyone what was possible but prior to Nuguse no American man broken 3:30 for 18 years, and no American-born man had ever broken 3:30.
Yared was the first of now three to do so, and has raised US distance running to a whole new level as a result. I really do believe that a collegian, perhaps even two, will break 3:30 this year as well as a whole host of American pros.
Cole Hocker won the Paris 1500m because Nguse broke 3:30 last year? Rather than a revolution, it’s having three ultra talented runners at the same time.
It will be interesting to see how the U.S. all-time list looks in 2030. Any predictions?
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Kickers usually win wrote:
mictlantecuhtli wrote:
Yared deserves a ton of credit for being at the forefront of the US 1500 revolution over the last few years. I think Centro showed everyone what was possible but prior to Nuguse no American man broken 3:30 for 18 years, and no American-born man had ever broken 3:30.
Yared was the first of now three to do so, and has raised US distance running to a whole new level as a result. I really do believe that a collegian, perhaps even two, will break 3:30 this year as well as a whole host of American pros.
Cole Hocker won the Paris 1500m because Nguse broke 3:30 last year? Rather than a revolution, it’s having three ultra talented runners at the same time.
Well, one could argue that Hocker saw Nuguse run 3:43 last year behind Ingebrigtsen and thought, "well I've beaten him many times before in the NCAA, I should be just as good."
Cooper Teare has even expressed the same type of logic. Unfortunately it hasn't worked out for him thus far...
Though we all already know that you're not really a believer in the mental side of sports.
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who cares? all this does is show hes great at following a pacemaker but not capable of winning a school sports day
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