Parents torched a school board in California after they allowed a transgender student to compete on the girls cross-country team and punished students who objected.
My cousin's daughter is a trans female who came out in her early 20s and transitioned. She knew she was trans in junior high, but did not come out until after college because she feared what other people would do to her. She was in HS in the early 2000s. Even then, and in a fairly left leaning NJ suburb, kids who were LGBTQ were severely harassed and bullied. Even though she played soccer and ran XC on the boys' teams, she got called "f#g", "fugde packer" and all the other epithets repeatedly for playing flute in the HS band and mostly having friends who were girls. She eventually dropped out of sports and just did band because the girls in the flute section were all nice to her and the other boys in the band were far more tolerant that the kids on the sports teams.
Trans kids just want to be able to be themselves and do what all the other kids get to do in school. I understand that issues arise when a trans female has been through puberty and has physical advantages to athletes who are female from birth. But school sports are supposed to be there for everyone. There are ways to allow trans female athletes to be able to compete alongside athletes who are female at birth without taking anything away from those athletes.
At most schools, girls and boys practice together. Even in intervals, faster girls train with the boys. In training, there is no real segregation. Meets are different. We divide them by gender because we want fair competition. A person can participate in the sport without cheating at races. If one does not feel comfortable competing against the boys, then they can still participate in the sport as a team manager or otherwise. It is a myth that these athletes can’t participate in the sport.
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At most schools, girls and boys practice together. Even in intervals, faster girls train with the boys. In training, there is no real segregation. Meets are different. We divide them by gender because we want fair competition. A person can participate in the sport without cheating at races. If one does not feel comfortable competing against the boys, then they can still participate in the sport as a team manager or otherwise. It is a myth that these athletes can’t participate in the sport.
My experience was the girls and guys train separately. I wasn’t a star runner, but every thing I ran was too fast for the fastest girl. If a girls team has some depth, I don’t see any benefit from training with the boys.
If a transgender athlete is eligible to compete, she is not cheating. No athletes consider being team manager as participating in sports.
At most schools, girls and boys practice together. Even in intervals, faster girls train with the boys. In training, there is no real segregation. Meets are different. We divide them by gender because we want fair competition. A person can participate in the sport without cheating at races. If one does not feel comfortable competing against the boys, then they can still participate in the sport as a team manager or otherwise. It is a myth that these athletes can’t participate in the sport.
Some schools have everyone train together. That is what my last school did. But not every school. My current school does not. Why do you assume I am cheating? Have you checked my hormone levels? Have you checked my bone density? Have you checked my muscle mass? Have you checked my height and weight? Have you ever checked my chromosomes? Because I will tell you that there is a pretty high chance I have De La Chappeles syndrome, which means that I would have XX chromosomes. My testosterone levels would be no different that cis-girls. My bone density would not be much different either. And my height and weight are pretty average for the girls on my team. Not to mention my placements. There was only one race this year where I ran with the top girls on my team. Every other race, I did not. And I was never even able to win a JV race. I'm pretty sure that someone who trains every day who is doping would at the very least be able to win a JV race.
You are right, it is a myth that trans athletes can't participate in the sport. It is very explicitly allowed both by california law, and CIF regulations. It is also indirectly allowed by Title IX protections. But while it is a myth, people are trying to make it reality.
Any guy needing to beat up on girls has some serious problems.
Be whatever ya need to be but it stops there. You cannot be competing vs girls that is simply wrong and needs to end now.
That Paris female boxing was beyond just stupid.
Imagine......
Deno......hey Judy wanna arm wrestle? I'm 275 she is 140.
Imagine...
Me... Hey S.W. wanna race? I'm 5-4 and 120 lbs shes at least 5-6 and 140 lbs (those are low estimates, but I have no way of knowing exact numbers)
Just cause you have a significant size advantage over your wife doesn't mean every trans girl has a significant size advantage over every cis girl (or even most cis-girls).
At most schools, girls and boys practice together. Even in intervals, faster girls train with the boys. In training, there is no real segregation. Meets are different. We divide them by gender because we want fair competition. A person can participate in the sport without cheating at races. If one does not feel comfortable competing against the boys, then they can still participate in the sport as a team manager or otherwise. It is a myth that these athletes can’t participate in the sport.
My experience was the girls and guys train separately. I wasn’t a star runner, but every thing I ran was too fast for the fastest girl. If a girls team has some depth, I don’t see any benefit from training with the boys.
If a transgender athlete is eligible to compete, she is not cheating. No athletes consider being team manager as participating in sports.
Your experience was different than mine. Even when I ran at a Division 1 university some of the national caliber girls would do training runs with some of the walk on boys. I used to do my strides after recovery runs with the female and male sprinters who would do a lot of their workouts together. A lot of pro female athletes even train with men. Very few high school or club coaches have the time or energy to run their male and female athletes separately. Some athletes go further, some kids run more or fewer intervals and some interval work is divided by speed, but rarely by gender. My daughters routinely beat many of the boys at practice. They have team meals together before every race and have great camaraderie among the fastest to the slowest regardless of orientation, race, creed or color.
Any guy needing to beat up on girls has some serious problems.
Be whatever ya need to be but it stops there. You cannot be competing vs girls that is simply wrong and needs to end now.
That Paris female boxing was beyond just stupid.
Imagine......
Deno......hey Judy wanna arm wrestle? I'm 275 she is 140.
Imagine...
Me... Hey S.W. wanna race? I'm 5-4 and 120 lbs shes at least 5-6 and 140 lbs (those are low estimates, but I have no way of knowing exact numbers)
Just cause you have a significant size advantage over your wife doesn't mean every trans girl has a significant size advantage over every cis girl (or even most cis-girls).
Ok forget arm wrestling the wife.
How about Olympic boxing where a man boxes a female, well?
Let me tell all of you some of what happened at this meeting.
Does anyone care to explain why these "hysterical" parents who could do nothing but "scream" were massively outnumbered by those who understand that trans people deserve the same rights as cis people?
Does anyone care to explain the FOUR students from my school who spoke up for themselves and explaining how the severe bullying and harrassment affects them? And what about the other trans student from another school in the district? The only student who spoke out for you was a single girl from a school not part of this school district, who also said that she asks other girls how they feel about this, and yet they don't have a problem with it since it's not a big deal? "It's not their problem", they say.
And why is it that about half of the times that someone yelled out in your defense it was one of two people, who will not be named for anonymity? One woman went up to scream the same stuff about 10 times if I remember correctly. And then to threaten to file a harassment complaint for them saying her last name? They did not even say her last name, it just so happens that her last name is the first name of the next speaker, who was the other person who went up a bunch. Almost seems like that was planned just to create chaos. And why is it ok for me to have my deadname dropped? I wished to stay anonymous and yet that ruined it. Should I also start a lawsuit?
Did anyone notice how one lady claimed to need double the time to speak because she needed a translator? Did you also notice how at the end of her 'speech' she switched to English and started screaming her head off? Seems like someone doesn't know how to follow directions.
Speaking of following directions, why is it that for every topic I was brought up? During the public comment section for each topic, it is a rule that you speak about that topic. And yet apparently people think my controversy has something to do with monetary bonds (and just about every other topic on the agenda).
What about that one man who decided that after his two minutes were up, that he would stay up at the mic and continue to scream and yell for another few minutes? The board members nearly needed to bring security to escort him out. Do you think that man was in the right?
Now lets take a look at the cheers. While yes, a few of the anti-trans speeches did amass a bunch of cheering, it was only a few of them. Yet EVERY pro-trans speech had sooo much cheering. Many of them had far more cheering than even the loudest cheers for the hate campaign.
Oh and what about K.S.'s brother (neither person will be named to keep their anonymity)? For such a devoted Christian, he sure doesn't know the bible were well. He decided that he would bring up my speech, and the use of a Bible verse. That Bible verse is Mathew 5:43-44. In fact, it is a pretty well known verse, something that I'm fairly certain such a devoted Christian would know, or at least know what book it is in. But merely minutes after my message where the book, chapter, and verse was stated, K.S.'s brother walked up, and said some man quoted some Bible verse from Mark. Really?! A devoted Christian can't even remember what book a well known Bible verse is from minutes after someone had read it?
Now let's take a look at people's voices. Q: Did people scream? A: Yes. Q: Did pro-trans advocates scream? A: No. Q: Did hateful rioters scream? A: Yes. Q: Did more than one rioter scream? A: Yes, if I remember correctly there were at least five. Q: Who are the people who are causing chaos here? Because to me, it seems very obvious that it was people who are a part of the anti-trans hate campaign.
Oh, and LetRun mods. I have made sure that no people are named in this post. I have made sure that no locations are named in this post. I have not given any identifiable information in this post, aside from initials that likely belong to a million people in the USA alone. Even if I did provide information about another person, all of the events I am speaking about were live-streamed on YouTube, and all the the individuals mentioned gave their willing consent to be seen, and had the choice to attend this board meeting. None of the information is private. There is no reason for this post to be removed.
If this post is removed, then either come up with an actual reason for it to be removed, or remove the entire thread. The very first post is an article that discloses information about me that I did not want publicized. It also gives names and occupations of some of the people involved, not to mention pictures of people involved (some of whom are minors).
Your arguments get more and more absurd. You constantly claim that there is support for boys cheating against girls by how the public interacts with you. A bunch of “supporting” noise from a bunch of unemployed childless trans-activists who flooded a small room by arriving hours before the employed parents of affected girls could arrive DOES NOT mean that there are more people in favor of biological males competing against girls. The majority of liberals with children don’t even agree. As for violence last night, there was a group of pro-trans people who would intentionally shine their silly strobe lights and bump into people wearing Protect Girls Sports, hoping to bait them into a reaction. Their cameraman waited nearby for the setup to generate some footage and they surely caught a reaction from a couple people who took the bait. Police watched it happen multiple times and threatened arrest to the pro-trans people. They pushed their pride flags in people’s faces and peed in the sinks of the bathrooms. The same pro-trans people yelled in people’s ears with megaphones, and they left trash all over the overflow rooms and the lawn.
Stop pretending they were civilized, relatable or credible - and especially stop convincing yourself that they’re part of any majority who prioritizes the comfort and glory of transgenders at the expense of girls.
Important News: Today December 20, the Biden administration withdrew its proposed change to Title IX that would have forced all schools in the US that receive federal funds to allow students who say they have trans, nonbinary or other "diverse" gender identities to partcipate in sex-separated school sports based on their claimed gender identities rather than their sex.
It's so obvious that they found a financial goldmine -- pretend to care about this, rile up a bunch of morons, have those morons share the article with other morons, profit profit profit.
Your arguments get more and more absurd. You constantly claim that there is support for boys cheating against girls by how the public interacts with you. A bunch of “supporting” noise from a bunch of unemployed childless trans-activists who flooded a small room by arriving hours before the employed parents of affected girls could arrive DOES NOT mean that there are more people in favor of biological males competing against girls. The majority of liberals with children don’t even agree. As for violence last night, there was a group of pro-trans people who would intentionally shine their silly strobe lights and bump into people wearing Protect Girls Sports, hoping to bait them into a reaction. Their cameraman waited nearby for the setup to generate some footage and they surely caught a reaction from a couple people who took the bait. Police watched it happen multiple times and threatened arrest to the pro-trans people. They pushed their pride flags in people’s faces and peed in the sinks of the bathrooms. The same pro-trans people yelled in people’s ears with megaphones, and they left trash all over the overflow rooms and the lawn.
Stop pretending they were civilized, relatable or credible - and especially stop convincing yourself that they’re part of any majority who prioritizes the comfort and glory of transgenders at the expense of girls.
You simply assume that they are unemployed and childless. Many of them are employed by organizations such as RPYA. I also know that quite a few children spoke out in support of me, and the one minor who spoke out against me said that everyone she spoke to does not care because it is not their problem. I know that quite a few parents of students (and not just students who spoke out) also said their piece.
In regards to your claims of violence, I was not aware of this because for my safety I stayed home and watched the live stream. So anything that happened in any of the overflow rooms or outside I could not have known about. All I know is that in the actual board room, the only people who showed any tendency towards violence were the anti-trans people. And it's kinda funny how you opposed pro-trans people bumping into anti-trans people but you don't oppose anti-trans people bumping into pro-trans people. I am not saying I support pro-trans people doing it because I don't support it at all, but it's not fair to only judge people with opposing views as yours.
Shining lights is not violence, and as far as I know it is only illegal to put them on a vehicle in California. I don't think it is illegal to simply posses them, or even to shine them in a public setting.
Also, ok, even if some of the pro-trans people were not very well-behaved, the fact that this small group of pro-trans people DID elecite violent reactions from anti-trans people there were still violent reactions from people. If you are opposed to what the other trans athletes had posted, then you should still be opposed to the violent reactions.
In regards to pushing the flags in people's faces, now you know how it feels to be surrounded by people who oppose your beliefs. I have to deal with that nonsense every Wednesday.
In regards to your next claim (peeing in the sinks), again, I did not hear anything about this. I am pretty sure that there is no way to prove or disprove this (at least I hope no one took pictures or videos in a public restroom). I also would think that that would be a story that the news would absolutely love, especially since they all seen to be very biased toward your side.
At least for the people who were in the main board room, the pro-trans people absolutely were more civil than the anti-trans people. Watch the board meeting for yourself if you don't believe me. In regards to how relatable either side were, I would also argue that my side was more relatable. The argument that was the most relatable on your side is about having trans people using locker rooms and restrooms, which is only about a small percentage of people. The argument on my side that was most relatable was protecting children from bullying, and I don't know the exact statistics, but I'm pretty sure more students are bullied than are trans. But that argument is more relatable. In regards to credibility, at least from the people who spoke my side absolutely takes the cake. Who do you have speaking for you? You have hate groups. You have people trying to restrict access to books. You have a literal terrorist group. Yes, you have a few actual stakeholders who spoke, but half of them couldn't stop screaming. Who did my group have speak? We had students from my school. We had parents of students from my school. We had nationally recognized organizations. We had locally recognized activist groups. And no one from my allies raised their voice when addressing the board.
Let me explain to you why I believe yesterday showed that we are not as much of a minority as you think. "Next time, there will be a whole lot more of us... It's going to be standing room only." Do you remember this? This is what an anti-trans person said at the last meeting. And while yes, you did amass a few more people, the pro-trans people amassed significantly more.
We stand up for the silenced. We stand up for the oppressed. We will not back down in the face of opposition. We will continue to organize to protect LGBTQ youth, and their rights. Even if you are the majority, your majority is not as tight. Most of these issues do not actually affect them in any significant way. Most of them likely have personally met less than 10 trans people in their lives, and didn't even realize some of them were trans. Most people would not mobilize to fight against something that doesn't affect them. But LGBTQ rights... That affects all LGBTQ people.
You should stop pretending to know more about what went on than people who were there. Your typical spin on bizarre behavior is comical. “it’s not illegal to shine a light”. Who said it was!? It’s just obnoxious and does cause some annoyance to people who obviously don’t welcome it. Why would I mention any of the pro-girls people getting physical when it didn’t happen? They only reacted to unsolicited and unwelcome direct physical contact. The victims who reacted were reminded my others to not show emotions, but I don’t blame their instincts for kicking in. As for the sink-peeing, I don’t care to hear your “defense” about a lack of evidence. Multiple people saw it. Of course they didn’t take pics. Disgusting. You weren’t there. You heard a biased recap from your people. They weren’t the majority. They were just louder and more annoying.
Just like the election, the silent majority will prevail. The appearance and demonstrations by the type of people who have been accused of being (alleged) groomers and (alleged) sexual deviants will only draw more parents and female athletes to stand up, and vice versa.
There was no action for the board to take anyways. This issue will be going to the State and Fed. The weak leadership at this district isn’t going to make any changes. Boys will compete in girls track this Spring, and girls will lose opportunities and glory to them.
Title IX is being urinated on… by people who pee standing up. Our daughters deserve better.
Between the Biden admin scraping the Title IX guidance, Trump threatening to cut funding to schools that allow delusional boys to play on girls’ teams, and the “trans rights” movement completely jumping the shark in the last 6 months, this will no longer be an issue in just about a month’s time.