Court Ruling Today- JuCo doesn’t affect NCAA Eligibilty

Any good articles or insight on this yet?

Pavia and Vanderbilit. Not official though.

2 year mission

2 years at Salt Lake Community College getting back in shape

4 years of NCAA eligibility at BYU

Throw an injury/redshirt year in there and you can have an experienced squad of 27 year old seniors at NCAAs every year!

No. The eligibility doesn't count but the timeline does.

Don’t think it will apply directly to track and field as JUCO track competes against D1/D2 head to head on a regular basis, within the same competitions, heats, flights, etc. Football, baseball, basketball, etc at the JUCO level are in their own bubble with no cross-over.

Also, the NCAA hasn’t changed the 5-year clock so it is irrelevant anyway.

It potentially gives a 5th year of competition. 1 year competing for a juco, 4 years competing in the NCAA

sports.yahoo.com

Diego Pavia court ruling another potentially massive blow for NCAA — 'It's not going to end until we collectively bargain'

@RossDellenger

The 30,000-foot view of the Pavia decision: It not only paves the way for all junior college players to gain an additional year, but it may invite even more legal challenges over the NCAA's eligibility rules.

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Juco feeder systems? run a couple years Juco then join the NCAA.

From the above article

”In Wednesday’s ruling, the court shot down all of the NCAA’s arguments for its rules around eligibility. Such rules, the NCAA contends, preserve the character and uniqueness of college, create open opportunities for future athletes, and prevent age and experience disparities among athletes.
The Court “is not persuaded,” the judge wrote. The arguments “fall flat.””

lol, at least the existing rules don’t prevent age and experience disparities with international recruits as we’ve seen in track and field / xc.

if you are going to allow that, might as well allow Juco athletes full eligibility.

Basically it will eliminate a lot of D1 and D2 scholarships going to high schoolers, will increase the amount of time kids spend in college and will increase the number of foreign athletes in D1 as they will have extended eligibility.

This is dramatic.

Those HS kids would get to go to juco if they wanted. You guys forget that most kids don't want to go to juco in the first place.

Really depends on where you live. some states have a great JC system (California, Iowa, Arizona, Texas)

other states don’t even offer athletics at their Junior colleges.

I'm sure they will get that increased to six next. They have a bunch of exceptions anyways.

Two important things:

1. The ruling applies only to Pavia. Could we see other lawsuits? Maybe. But to assume this applies to all JUCO is a large reach.

2. Pavia only received a temporary injunction. The case is far from settled.

Merry Christmas Ed Eyestone and Diljeet Taylor!

So does this mean you can compete at Juco for 2 years and then NCAA for four, for a total of six years of competition??

More specifically looking at BYU’s new problems, BYU relies heavily on redshirting the guys the first year off their mission because they are out of shape and can’t compete at a BYU level yet. If the new rules really mean BYU will have to use 3-5 roster spots on out of shape guys right back from a mission (can’t redshirt them to preserve roster spots under the new rules), that’s a killer.

Could a BYU level school really send a top 100 recruit to a JC for a year to save a roster spot hoping they would still come to BYU after they shake out the mission legs? Hey Danny! How about you go to SLCC for a year so we don’t have to cut someone?

Good luck with that.

If this rule really means a kid can go on a mission then get an associates at a JC and then have 4-5 yrs to run d1 on scholarship, that would be an interesting option for Mormon boys who are good but not quite high d1 coming out of HS.

More likely they wind up scattered around the country than at BYU though.

i get you're saying technically the ruling is about the one kid but if the basic idea is this kid "lacks NIL access and TV exposure," how are other juco kids going to be differently situated?

as someone who works in business, isn't this contradicting how they treated the FTC noncompete rule this summer?

as i said other thread, this means the cash side is overriding the classwork side. the kid made a choice to go full time for classes someplace. that someplace is juco. we treat juco as equivalent to the first 2 years of college. the kid will get course credit from the d1 for doing so. you take 1-2 years of classes, and compete each year within that framework, you should be a soph or junior at the d1.

if you were academically ineligible and had to pick juco, since when have conservatives been bleeding hearts? do they allow harvard to do affirmative action anymore?

to extent this out

(a) NAIA allows NIL but isn't on TV. does that time count?

(b) if this doesn't count, isn't the whole 5 year/10 semester thing an artificial limit on how long a college athlete can give their services to the school and get paid?