The weather was colder and different terrain but 15:50.0 for 5000m x country and Jane beat Addison Ritzenhein (Nike Cross National) Champion by a STAGGERING 41 seconds. The pack at NCAA went past 5km in 16:21, surely Jane could handle that but do you think she could hold on to have placed top 10 at NCAA?
The weather was colder and different terrain but 15:50.0 for 5000m x country and Jane beat Addison Ritzenhein (Nike Cross National) Champion by a STAGGERING 41 seconds. The pack at NCAA went past 5km in 16:21, surely Jane could handle that but do you think she could hold on to have placed top 10 at NCAA?
Idk about ncaa, but out of New York, a boys team named Xavier qualified. If you believe in speed ratings, she would have been their #2 runner.
The weather was colder and different terrain but 15:50.0 for 5000m x country and Jane beat Addison Ritzenhein (Nike Cross National) Champion by a STAGGERING 41 seconds. The pack at NCAA went past 5km in 16:21, surely Jane could handle that but do you think she could hold on to have placed top 10 at NCAA?
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Earlier this year she ran 4:38 mile and 9:48 for 2 miles but the high schooler seems to have stepped it up another notch since outdoors.
Please you can't be serious and think the best she could do is place around top 50. Jane Hedengen GUARANTEED could place top 20 and very likely would have a decent chance at top 10 but at the very worst top 15.
That hard-pan flat-as-a-pancake golf course track in Mesa AZ is a completely different animal than the Thomas Zimmer course in 37° weather. She would likely be Top 30, maybe as high as Top 15, somewhere in that sweet spot seems likely. She looks like a lock for multi-year AA, but time will tell.
That hard-pan flat-as-a-pancake golf course track in Mesa AZ is a completely different animal than the Thomas Zimmer course in 37° weather. She would likely be Top 30, maybe as high as Top 15, somewhere in that sweet spot seems likely. She looks like a lock for multi-year AA, but time will tell.
She might have been somewhere 30-90. Who knows? 33rd was Sophia Kennedy (15:33), 49th was Lucy Jenks (15:33), 66th was Zofia Dudek (15:33), 81st was Siona Chisolm (15:33) all of whom I believe are healthy.
That hard-pan flat-as-a-pancake golf course track in Mesa AZ is a completely different animal than the Thomas Zimmer course in 37° weather. She would likely be Top 30, maybe as high as Top 15, somewhere in that sweet spot seems likely. She looks like a lock for multi-year AA, but time will tell.
That hard-pan flat-as-a-pancake golf course track in Mesa AZ is a completely different animal than the Thomas Zimmer course in 37° weather. She would likely be Top 30, maybe as high as Top 15, somewhere in that sweet spot seems likely. She looks like a lock for multi-year AA, but time will tell.
Amen. Also, an extra 1km DOES matter lol
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I would change "would likely" be Top 30 to "most likely" and as high as possibly 10-15. The young lady just ran the FASTEST 5000m EVER by a higher school female. Every NCAA female went to high school and around 80% ran high school X and surely on a dry fast course (so why hadn't they ran even remotely close to Jane's performance).
As a female who’s placed in the top 10 twice, I 100% think Jane could have done it! She ran 15:50 on an XC course—sure, it was flat, but the footing wasn’t perfect, and it was warm (in the 70s). That’s seriously impressive.
It’s all speculation. History is littered with high school prodigies that we say “would she?” or “would he?” about. I know it’s fun to speculate but we’ll need to wait & see. As many don’t pan out as do pan out. Regardless, it will be fun to see how she does. I’m hoping that she does well.
The weather was colder and different terrain but 15:50.0 for 5000m x country and Jane beat Addison Ritzenhein (Nike Cross National) Champion by a STAGGERING 41 seconds. The pack at NCAA went past 5km in 16:21, surely Jane could handle that but do you think she could hold on to have placed top 10 at NCAA?
Recent high school graduate Rachel Forsyth was only 4 seconds away from finishing in the top 10 at the NCAA xc championships.
So the question is "Is Jene Hedengren in better shape than Rachel Forsyth by 4 seconds?" Based on their 1 mile and 2 mile times this past spring, and the fact that Rachel looked exhausted at the end of the NCAA race while Jane at the end of her NXR race looked like she could have gone a little faster if she really needed to, I would say yes, there is a good chance that Jane Hedengren could have finished in the top 10 at the NCAA xc championships.
15:50 is great. All time fastest 5K for whatever that is worth. The speed ratings for both the boys and girls races indicate the course was about 15 seconds faster than both of the last 2 years so apparently conditions were favorable. Per my prior post there could have been a wide range of outcomes had she raced at Zimmer and no outcome would be "guaranteed". Nerves and wet cold, somewhat hilly conditions affect people differently.
this is pointless speculation in my opinion. she established herself as the fastest of all time last weekend and we should be celebrating that. but a high school NXR race and the NCAA Championships are universes apart on so many levels. there are a million factors that lead to how any given race plays out. our focus, like hers, should be how she will do at NXN. and Im going with its hers to lose at this point.
she will likely continue to be a great runner in college if she stays healthy and Im looking forward to watching her there as well. interestingly when asked about her future on the college level she often pushes back and separates herself and her accomplishments from what the women of BYU are doing and have done. she did several times on Saturday as interviewers were trying to tie together her record setting win with the the BYU womens accomplishments just hours after the Cougars had won a National Title. so even she would find this kind of speculation pointless and a little insulting to the current BYU athletes. the kid has always been very mature for a high schooler and she continues to impress me with her perspective and humility as much as she does with her running ability.
Good analysis. Most people shoot from the hip. She may pull a Natalie Cook next year and this thread will reopen. But her finish a year from now doesn't have any bearing where shoe would finish today.
She may pull a Natalie Cook next year and this thread will reopen.
I'm still pulling for Cook and hope she finds her way.
We're not privy to everything the athletes are going through and that is why I don't care for comments like this. I'm sure that your intent was not nefarious too often comments like this are made. This forum has a history of it and much much worse that what you said.
She may pull a Natalie Cook next year and this thread will reopen.
I'm still pulling for Cook and hope she finds her way.
We're not privy to everything the athletes are going through and that is why I don't care for comments like this. I'm sure that your intent was not nefarious but too often comments like this are made. This forum has a history of it and much much worse that what you said.
I mentioned her because she was the most recent elite freshman thst I coukd recall. She ran records in HS and then was top 10 freshman year. People used that to claim that she would have done the same as a senior in HS.