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1 year ago 11/20/2024 10:16am EST

I dare you.

(or if you believe, at this point, all of them dope (who meet the highest level criteria), then say that.

I'm not trying to shame anyone. Just trying to discern the realities at the highest level of the sport. Is it even possible to run 26:30 or 12:40 or 3:28 without doping? I'm guessing not. Shoes help, sure, but the top Africans, plus the U.S., Euro and Aussie/NZ/other athletes who are seriously contending for medals and all-time list marks? Unfortunately, I believe it's not possible w/o doping, because too many folks have been doing so not to.

They all have to make this choice, if they want to have a chance at the very top. Now, those are making U.S. teams but not necessarily contending for medals? I could believe there's still holdout non-dopers at that level, yes. But if you want to be the best, you have to do what the best are doing, unfortunately. You may get caught, or you may not if you know the latest strategies and are savvy enough.

I don't know, you tell me. Is all that basically the truth, or is it still possible to be at the highest level and be clean?

1 year ago 11/20/2024 10:18am EST

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Sedjati

Jess Hull

Katir

Wanyonyi

Rupp

1 year ago 11/20/2024 10:19am EST

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1 year ago 11/20/2024 10:22am EST

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In the 800m: Arop, Rudisha

1 year ago 11/20/2024 10:39am EST

re: cramister

cramister wrote:
Grant Fisher

I assume you're being sarcastic. Grant has always seemed like a great kid. Maybe he's off the teat now that he's done with Bowerman. That would be cool. But 26:33 w/o doping? No.

Now, though? Maybe he's found a legal way to get the most out of himself without technically doping.

Also, the poster who said Arop and Rudisha. Really? Why do you think these two?

And of course the poster saying Sedjati, Hull, Katir, etc. ... yes we get your sarcasm.

1 year ago 11/20/2024 10:43am EST

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Parker Valby

Alicia Monson

Hobbs Kessler

1 year ago 11/20/2024 10:48am EST

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Athing Mu. She's has so much natural talent that she doesn't need to dope.

1 year ago 11/20/2024 10:48am EST

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nycchilax wrote:
cramister wrote:
Grant Fisher
I assume you're being sarcastic. Grant has always seemed like a great kid. Maybe he's off the teat now that he's done with Bowerman. That would be cool. But 26:33 w/o doping? No.
Now, though? Maybe he's found a legal way to get the most out of himself without technically doping.
Also, the poster who said Arop and Rudisha. Really? Why do you think these two?
And of course the poster saying Sedjati, Hull, Katir, etc. ... yes we get your sarcasm.

These threads are dumb. Fisher was a bad kid, but now he’s a great one? If he can’t run 26:33 without doping, what could he have run had he not? Medaling at 5/10 is every bit as good as running 26:33, but now you think he might be clean? What is a legal way to cheat?

I believe Nico Young will approach Fisher’s level within two years. Is he a doper or has he at least found a legal way to cheat?

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1 year ago 11/20/2024 11:04am EST

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I'll give you Kessler and Mu, as good as they were as preps. Valby and Monson aren't true medal contenders... and I have my doubts about Monson, with those dramatic time jumps she had a few years ago.

1 year ago 11/20/2024 11:50am EST

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1 year ago 11/20/2024 11:52am EST

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She's got a thing for running fast.

1 year ago 11/20/2024 12:00pm EST

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nycchilax wrote:
I dare you.
(or if you believe, at this point, all of them dope (who meet the highest level criteria), then say that.
I'm not trying to shame anyone. Just trying to discern the realities at the highest level of the sport. Is it even possible to run 26:30 or 12:40 or 3:28 without doping? I'm guessing not. Shoes help, sure, but the top Africans, plus the U.S., Euro and Aussie/NZ/other athletes who are seriously contending for medals and all-time list marks? Unfortunately, I believe it's not possible w/o doping, because too many folks have been doing so not to.
They all have to make this choice, if they want to have a chance at the very top. Now, those are making U.S. teams but not necessarily contending for medals? I could believe there's still holdout non-dopers at that level, yes. But if you want to be the best, you have to do what the best are doing, unfortunately. You may get caught, or you may not if you know the latest strategies and are savvy enough.
I don't know, you tell me. Is all that basically the truth, or is it still possible to be at the highest level and be clean?

My super honest answer is Hobbs.

I think none us would be shocked once we officially find out Jakob Injectionbrigsen is a huge doper.

Grant’s BTC connections are a bit of a dubious distinction.

1 year ago 11/20/2024 12:15pm EST

re: nycchilax

nycchilax wrote:
I dare you.
(or if you believe, at this point, all of them dope (who meet the highest level criteria), then say that.
I'm not trying to shame anyone. Just trying to discern the realities at the highest level of the sport. Is it even possible to run 26:30 or 12:40 or 3:28 without doping? I'm guessing not. Shoes help, sure, but the top Africans, plus the U.S., Euro and Aussie/NZ/other athletes who are seriously contending for medals and all-time list marks? Unfortunately, I believe it's not possible w/o doping, because too many folks have been doing so not to.
They all have to make this choice, if they want to have a chance at the very top. Now, those are making U.S. teams but not necessarily contending for medals? I could believe there's still holdout non-dopers at that level, yes. But if you want to be the best, you have to do what the best are doing, unfortunately. You may get caught, or you may not if you know the latest strategies and are savvy enough.
I don't know, you tell me. Is all that basically the truth, or is it still possible to be at the highest level and be clean?

Jakob Kingebrigtsen

1 year ago 11/20/2024 12:29pm EST

re: Kingebrigtsen

Kingebrigtsen wrote:
nycchilax wrote:
I dare you.
(or if you believe, at this point, all of them dope (who meet the highest level criteria), then say that.
I'm not trying to shame anyone. Just trying to discern the realities at the highest level of the sport. Is it even possible to run 26:30 or 12:40 or 3:28 without doping? I'm guessing not. Shoes help, sure, but the top Africans, plus the U.S., Euro and Aussie/NZ/other athletes who are seriously contending for medals and all-time list marks? Unfortunately, I believe it's not possible w/o doping, because too many folks have been doing so not to.
They all have to make this choice, if they want to have a chance at the very top. Now, those are making U.S. teams but not necessarily contending for medals? I could believe there's still holdout non-dopers at that level, yes. But if you want to be the best, you have to do what the best are doing, unfortunately. You may get caught, or you may not if you know the latest strategies and are savvy enough.
I don't know, you tell me. Is all that basically the truth, or is it still possible to be at the highest level and be clean?
Jakob Kingebrigtsen

Injectbrigsten**

1 year ago 11/20/2024 12:46pm EST

re: nycchilax

nycchilax wrote:
I dare you.
(or if you believe, at this point, all of them dope (who meet the highest level criteria), then say that.
I'm not trying to shame anyone. Just trying to discern the realities at the highest level of the sport. Is it even possible to run 26:30 or 12:40 or 3:28 without doping? I'm guessing not. Shoes help, sure, but the top Africans, plus the U.S., Euro and Aussie/NZ/other athletes who are seriously contending for medals and all-time list marks? Unfortunately, I believe it's not possible w/o doping, because too many folks have been doing so not to.
They all have to make this choice, if they want to have a chance at the very top. Now, those are making U.S. teams but not necessarily contending for medals? I could believe there's still holdout non-dopers at that level, yes. But if you want to be the best, you have to do what the best are doing, unfortunately. You may get caught, or you may not if you know the latest strategies and are savvy enough.
I don't know, you tell me. Is all that basically the truth, or is it still possible to be at the highest level and be clean?

This is what I'll tell you. You either think everyone is doping and don't care because if you did care you wouldn't bother following the sport.

or....you don't think everyone is doping and thus pick and choose who you think is and isn't doping.

Either way your thread is completely disingenuous.

1 year ago 11/20/2024 12:54pm EST

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I don't believe Kara Goucher ever doped.

1 year ago 11/20/2024 1:10pm EST

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1 year ago 11/20/2024 1:55pm EST

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Our UK team team Kelly and Kerr

1 year ago 11/20/2024 1:57pm EST

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