Or the equivalent of only running 6 days a week. Most runners will see big benefits from increasing their mileage up to that point. The next tier of improvements will come from adding workouts at 60 mpw.
Or the equivalent of only running 6 days a week. Most runners will see big benefits from increasing their mileage up to that point. The next tier of improvements will come from adding workouts at 60 mpw.
Roger Bannister would disagree.
For milers yes. For long distance, OP is correct. Just throw in some strides and you’re good.
Somewhat true. I see club members out at the track doing 400 repeat sessions (and of course ending with a couple 'fast' 200s) but running 25 or 30 miles/week. "Speed work." <eyeroll>
Allie O just hit 60mpw this fall. In your opinion she can now start workouts? There are a lot of middle distance runners that will never hit 60mpw.
My daughter went to the same HS as Yared Nuguse and they have strong boys and girls teams there because of their excellent coach. He didn't have ANYBODY running 60 mpw, even Nuguse during his senior year. They do workouts, though, not just mileage and it works out for them.
Incorrect imo. You are on to something physiologically. I think there is truth to that. But in practice, if you coach people who are 5th grade all the way to 12th grade, they benefit from speedwork. It builds efficiency, strength, neuromuscilar coordination (which builds efficiency) and the ability to tolerate very high lactate at race time. Ya gotta have it. Not to mention almost nobody runs 60mpw in HS.
By your logic, simply increasing the horsepower of a race car infinitely is the way to go without paying attention to aerodynamics and weight.
As we know there's a lot of people with an 70 vo2 that are faster than other people with an 75 vo2.
Okay if we want to cherry-pick people that do a lot of cross training then we can add the caveat of 60 miles per week and the equivalent number of hours cross training.
I never said that you can do strides, hill sprints, etc. in fact, that SHOULD be included. Young runners should just do mileage, strides, hills, speed development until they can get their mileage up too. If they race frequently enough, like most high schoolers do, then they’ll be fine.
Im sticking by my post. So far nobody has changed my mind.
Controversy in the streets wrote:
Or the equivalent of only running 6 days a week. Most runners will see big benefits from increasing their mileage up to that point. The next tier of improvements will come from adding workouts at 60 mpw.
what distance are you even talking about?
Controversy in the streets wrote:
Or the equivalent of only running 6 days a week. Most runners will see big benefits from increasing their mileage up to that point. The next tier of improvements will come from adding workouts at 60 mpw.
Only works on people who have zero athletic ability, or are very slow adaptors to stimulus.
I don't agree unless your idea is hs freshmen and people starting out should quickly build to 60 a week.
I want to see how you lay out a 60M week for a HS runner.
XCcoachh wrote:
I want to see how you lay out a 60M week for a HS runner.
S - LR 7
M - 3 E am , 5 E pm
T - 3 E am , 1 wu + 3 Thresh + 1 cd
W - 3 E am , 5 E pm
R - 5 E am , 5 E pm or Hills
F - 3 E am , 5 E pm + 4 strides
S - 3 E + strides
Some get in shape with short intervals and low mileage.
Some get in shape with higher mileage.
Then both run workouts to get faster.
It's impossible to run 60 miles a week without doing workouts.
malmo wrote:
It's impossible to run 60 miles a week without doing workouts.
No, just boring. I did it for "base training" for hs before I discovered the training information on sites like letsrun.
Controversy in the streets wrote:
Or the equivalent of only running 6 days a week. Most runners will see big benefits from increasing their mileage up to that point. The next tier of improvements will come from adding workouts at 60 mpw.
I bet you also think that mileage should be done as slow as possible too, like so many others on this site.
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