Which means Sound Running's The TEN on March 29th just became the only meet on earth where anyone who's anyone in track distance running will need to enter to have any chance of achieving their national or WC Qs.
Which means Sound Running's The TEN on March 29th just became the only meet on earth where anyone who's anyone in track distance running will need to enter to have any chance of achieving their national or WC Qs.
yep. actually insane what distance events on the track have come to. i dont blame the diamond league for erasing 10ks for the most part because watching 10k on the track sucks and this is coming from someone who remembers watching solinsky run 2659.6 on may 1, 2011 in the nike matumbos in his debut against rupp.
but the best 10k runners in the world will have to go to this race in the us with no (?) prize money. i keep telling my buddy who has challenged the 10k mark to go run on the roads overseas.
The roads should become the answer although, it might spell the beginning of the end of track 10K races.
Sad to acknowledge but I think you may be right. Notice that this year Ethiopia had their 10000 OG trials in Nerja southern Spain, as a closed event,so maybe there is something more international that could be built up around that. Spanish fans still like a good 10,000
Which means Sound Running's The TEN on March 29th just became the only meet on earth where anyone who's anyone in track distance running will need to enter to have any chance of achieving their national or WC Qs.
they have to get rid of the 10k seriously. please replace it at the olympics with xc. just because there was one good 10k at the olympics doesn't mean it should be kept - it's dying of its own accord.
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Is anyone able to explain to me why this is a good move?
This is a rarified distance and an incredibly popular meet. There is no issue with the land owners, and I don't believe it is a cost issue (cost to rent the track for the day is £385/$497).
As someone pointed out, this is one of the few events in the Country Europe World where athletes can chase quick times at this distance and qualify for major games or set National Records, and as a result it is a very high profile World-Athletics accredited meet, where the organiser continuously talks about trying to help drive the sport forward.
What is the benefit of the off-year? "Resting volunteers" can surely not be it?
Which means Sound Running's The TEN on March 29th just became the only meet on earth where anyone who's anyone in track distance running will need to enter to have any chance of achieving their national or WC Qs.
yep. actually insane what distance events on the track have come to. i dont blame the diamond league for erasing 10ks for the most part because watching 10k on the track sucks and this is coming from someone who remembers watching solinsky run 2659.6 on may 1, 2011 in the nike matumbos in his debut against rupp.
but the best 10k runners in the world will have to go to this race in the us with no (?) prize money. i keep telling my buddy who has challenged the 10k mark to go run on the roads overseas.
Valby’s 10k debut was incredibly interesting. There was no clue how she would do before the race. The race, which she had to solo, passing a lot of runners on the track, coincided with a RunnersWorld article on her training.
I watched this year’s female Night of the 10000’s race. O’Keefe took Megan Keith to the wire. They both ended up injured by the time of the Olympics.
Is anyone able to explain to me why this is a good move?
This is a rarified distance and an incredibly popular meet. There is no issue with the land owners, and I don't believe it is a cost issue (cost to rent the track for the day is £385/$497).
As someone pointed out, this is one of the few events in the Country Europe World where athletes can chase quick times at this distance and qualify for major games or set National Records, and as a result it is a very high profile World-Athletics accredited meet, where the organiser continuously talks about trying to help drive the sport forward.
What is the benefit of the off-year? "Resting volunteers" can surely not be it?
I think they explained it pretty clearly. They want to give their volunteers a break. Left unsaid was it’s a non-champs year so chasing a QT/points doesn’t apply as much.
I think they explained it pretty clearly. They want to give their volunteers a break. Left unsaid was it’s a non-champs year so chasing a QT/points doesn’t apply as much.
That’s incorrect. There will be a world championships next year in Tokyo.
The roads should become the answer although, it might spell the beginning of the end of track 10K races.
From results so far, probably not, for the following reasons:
1) Have any country governing bodies sanctioned 10k road races as a means to achieving their national track championships 10,000 Qs? I don't believe USATF has. So far as I am aware, only WA has sanctioned 10k road races as a means to achieving Oly or WC track 10,000 Qs.
2) The only 10k road race I am aware of that has produced WC Qs is the Valencia Iberacaja race in January. This is where both the men's and women's 10k world records have been set. This year @ Valencia, 4 men broke 27:00 while 10 women broke 30:40 to achieve their Oly Qs. So, if you want to get your 27:00 & 30:20 Qs for Tokyo next year and can't make it to San Juan Capistrano, CA for The TEN, looks like this is your only option (where 8 men and 4 women achieved their Oly Qs back in March).
3) None of the men or women who achieved their Oly Qs in Valencia back in January medalled in Paris. So, one has to question whether running a fast road race in January translates to a medal performance on the track in August or September. Frankly, one has to question whether running a fast 10k road race any time during the year translates to a fast track 10,000 championship race.
4) WA now holds official road racing championships. At distances of the Mile, 5k and Half-Marathon. No 10k? Again, if you want to achieve your Oly/WC Q on the roads, for the time being it's Valencia or bust.
5) On top of all this, WA has reduced the number of xc qualifying spots for the Tokyo 10,000 WCs down to 3.
All this might result in a resurgence of Stanford's Payton Jordan meet in late April -- where, as noted in an earlier post, Solinsky ran his sub-27 years ago when the PJ 10,000s were world class before The TEN came along and siphoned off all the professional talent.
Bottom Line: if "roads should become the answer," we need a lot more Valencia Iberacajas.
The roads should become the answer although, it might spell the beginning of the end of track 10K races.
From results so far, probably not, for the following reasons:
1) Have any country governing bodies sanctioned 10k road races as a means to achieving their national track championships 10,000 Qs? I don't believe USATF has. So far as I am aware, only WA has sanctioned 10k road races as a means to achieving Oly or WC track 10,000 Qs.
2) The only 10k road race I am aware of that has produced WC Qs is the Valencia Iberacaja race in January. This is where both the men's and women's 10k world records have been set. This year @ Valencia, 4 men broke 27:00 while 10 women broke 30:40 to achieve their Oly Qs. So, if you want to get your 27:00 & 30:20 Qs for Tokyo next year and can't make it to San Juan Capistrano, CA for The TEN, looks like this is your only option (where 8 men and 4 women achieved their Oly Qs back in March).
3) None of the men or women who achieved their Oly Qs in Valencia back in January medalled in Paris.So, one has to question whether running a fast road race in January translates to a medal performance on the track in August or September. Frankly, one has to question whether running a fast 10k road race any time during the year translates to a fast track 10,000 championship race.
4) WA now holds official road racing championships. At distances of the Mile, 5k and Half-Marathon. No 10k? Again, if you want to achieve your Oly/WC Q on the roads, for the time being it's Valencia or bust.
5) On top of all this, WA has reduced the number of xc qualifying spots for the Tokyo 10,000 WCs down to 3.
All this might result in a resurgence of Stanford's Payton Jordan meet in late April -- where, as noted in an earlier post, Solinsky ran his sub-27 years ago when the PJ 10,000s were world class before The TEN came along and siphoned off all the professional talent.
Bottom Line: if "roads should become the answer," we need a lot more Valencia Iberacajas.
Cheptegei ran his qualification (a relatively easy 26:53) at Laredo road 10k (Kejelcha ran 26:37).
yep. actually insane what distance events on the track have come to. i dont blame the diamond league for erasing 10ks for the most part because watching 10k on the track sucks and this is coming from someone who remembers watching solinsky run 2659.6 on may 1, 2011 in the nike matumbos in his debut against rupp.
but the best 10k runners in the world will have to go to this race in the us with no (?) prize money. i keep telling my buddy who has challenged the 10k mark to go run on the roads overseas.
Valby’s 10k debut was incredibly interesting. There was no clue how she would do before the race. The race, which she had to solo, passing a lot of runners on the track, coincided with a RunnersWorld article on her training.
I watched this year’s female Night of the 10000’s race. O’Keefe took Megan Keith to the wire. They both ended up injured by the time of the Olympics.
That was at the Bryan Clay Invitational in early April. She won by over 2 minutes.
Men had 3 under 28:00 so that was a deeper field.
2025 Bryan Clay Invite will follow Sound Running's The TEN by a couple weeks. Possible -- but unlikely -- that those who don't run well at The TEN will try again at Bryan Clay.
Regarding Night of the 10,000 PBs, very skeptical about "our volunteers need a break" reason/excuse. One of the complaints re: Hayward Field hosting so many meets is fear of volunteer burnout. Yet, the meets roll on in Eugene.
More inclined to believe the old "follow the money" mantra. Is this a first sign that ON is having to pull back some on its t&f investments? Just pure speculation. However, sure seems that ON could find new volunteers or even kick in a little $$ to attract people willing to help put on this highly regarded track festival.
In any case, not a good look for ON. Hope it's not a harbinger of worse things to come.
