Cross country / Track roster cuts for D1?

you're talking about the roster limits without considering transfer portal. like, divide the roster limit into the existing roster. you're not considering some schools might complicate that further by going the "coach prime" route of shipping out current rosterees and hitting the portal.

in math terms, if they currently carry 30 and have to go to 10, that seems harsh enough, 1/3 of the team is left, but they could also be looking at it more like, i will keep my 5-7 best, and fill out the remaining 3 from the portal and recruiting. in which case it's more like 1/6 or 1/4 of the existing team is safe, not 1/3.

i mean, if you think about it, most teams other than the worst D1s or D3s are already rostering 10+ people. they'd have to cut below 10 existing to enable any recruiting at all. otherwise you already caught your fishing limit before you start. you'd then have to graduate or lose people to have any new holes. unless you cut actually past 10 to single digits. then you have as many holes as you go past the limit.

last, i think as some have suggested this situation may tend to favor transfers or the best elite athletes. if i have 10 XC slots. then i can't carry hurt people or injury prone. then i need every slot to count. then my school can't be developmental unless it's the best recruits in the country. in which case i let some other school down the food chain, weaker D1, D2, D3, NAIA, take the chance, then swoop in from the portal.

and then like i said, if we're cut way down to 10, doing the portal means a few of those 10 aren't even safe year to year.

its just the SEC Men's teams that are going to 10/35. Every other school is going to be at 17/45

and i know the roster rules apply to D1 only. and would vary conference to conference. my point in mentioning D3 and weaker D1 is only a few schools out there in any division are below 10 runners. especially D1. most teams won't be portland state last year with like 6 guys or whatever. so it's a cutdown rule not a upper limit.

at least initially it would be mass shedding. and if you want room to take advantage of either HS recruiting or the portal, the shedding has to actually go below 10 before being filled back up. otherwise you have no room to offer.

so far.

and even so, my point still holds. many teams won't cut "just" to the line. they will likely cut below the line. then refill from the cut pool, the portal, and recruiting.

it will then stabilize year 2+ and you can go back to attrition within the limits.

You are incorrect. The 10 XC spots is for women too. My daughter just got cut and she will be a senior next year. Awful.

This is F’ed up man I am sorry to hear this. Smdh

No they aren’t at least not by the SEC. Maybe a specific school decided to reduce their women’s roster as well but that seems very unlikely with SEC schools trying to balance title IX.

Football has to cut 20.

I coach at a D1 and our roster sizes were already 15 women and 10 men. With this new rule we actually get to add 2 women and 7 men..not all D1 schools are screwed here. Can't wait for the portal to open up!

No. It does not affect you. Title IX requires tou to have equal number of roster spots and scholarships across all sports. You seem quite confused.

This seems odd to me too. Why would your school which was already capping your roster want it to expand now? Your AD told you that you get extra roster spots now?

Lol nope, our numbers at 17 and 17. Nothing confusing about what our administration has decided to allow us to have.

Because our AD appreciates xctf and wants to set us up for success. We aren't a football school. I assume most other football schools will allow 17/45 as long as their title 9 numbers are on point like ours.

Sorry, I meant most other NON football schools.

You are making no sense. So your AD likes XC but you were artificially limited your roster spots? And now that the rules will limit the spots, he tells you to increase your numbers? Women have to decrease. Where are the additional men's roster spots coming from? Is he cutting a men's sport entirely?

Three of my former high school athletes are running at D-1 level. (None of them are in the SEC) , of those three one has already been told that his school is only going to carry 14 cross-country runners on the roster.

The other two said their schools have not yet made it public. What they’re going to do. One of those two, goes to a school that’s in the same conference as the first kid I’m mentioned, so I wonder if that school will also have the same roster limits for cross country.

None of them have been told what they’re going for track.

One of my former athletes was told that his school is going to 12 and most of those won't have a track spot. None of the others have been told anything yet. Their coaches told the runners not to talk about it and to just focus on running. Easy for the coaches to say. The students are looking for apartments for next year. I expect some to be cut but not until next spring when they will already have signed leases and enrolled for the fall.

D3 is the move. Nobody got time for all this nonsense.

I'm sorry that this doesn't make sense to you. You realize all sports are getting roster caps and that can affect other sports? No sports are being cut. I don't feel like continuing to explain this to you so I hope you get it this time.