Van Cortlandt Park has to be on the list - debatable about whether it's equal to or perhaps a notch below Holmdel.
I've never considered Darlington to be tough by any means - it's flat and fast, except for the short sand pit. Garret Mountain in Paterson, NJ is considerably tougher, but all in the final half mile.
ptxc kutztown is NOT hard. sure, that hill that you run in the middle and finish is rather long (0.3?) but it’s not steep at all. the majority of the course is fairly flat but any other rolling hill isnt any longer than 30 meters
Northfield Mountain has hosted Mass States. The first mile is a beast. The remainder of the course is much gentler, but still a short sweet climb ("The Wall") at 2.5. I watched Shalane destroy the field there as a high school senior.
My very first xc race was at Sunken Meadow State Park. That course had two challenging hills. Do they still race there? I ran a 19:36 literally two weeks into my racing career. That course was eye-opening.
The Hotchkiss School has a very demanding course. Cardiac Hill is infamous, but it has a 500m long incline at 2.25 that to me is the toughest part of the course.
The NMH School (Gill,MA) has a very challenging xc course with Jacob's Ladder and a lot of roller coaster type hills. Very little true flat.
Van Cortlandt Park has to be on the list - debatable about whether it's equal to or perhaps a notch below Holmdel.
VC Park? It's flat.
Flat?? What race were you running?? The HS girls 2 mile on the field? Did you ever run the actual course on the back hills including cemetery hill ?? You’re a joke
Flat?? What race were you running?? The HS girls 2 mile on the field? Did you ever run the actual course on the back hills including cemetery hill ?? You’re a joke
I've run both the high school and college courses. Only the college course runs up cemetery hill, which is steep, but its short, hardly a hill at all. It's a mere bump. I was All America three times in college. I ran World cross country. A joke eh?
Flat?? What race were you running?? The HS girls 2 mile on the field? Did you ever run the actual course on the back hills including cemetery hill ?? You’re a joke
I've run both the high school and college courses. Only the college course runs up cemetery hill, which is steep, but its short, hardly a hill at all. It's a mere bump. I was All America three times in college. I ran World cross country. A joke eh?
You're not fooling anyone, child.
I wouldn't call the VCP HS course that hard, but come on Malmo, it isn't flat and the switchback up to the top of Cemetery isn't that short; it takes a couple of minutes- maybe not for elites but for most runners. Also world cross country courses, often run on horse tracks aren't as hilly.