True, but he does twice the volume of training that you recommend.
It doesn't change the rule to never go all out in training.😉 Doesn't matter if you are a high mileage or low mileage runner as long as you just keep on improving. 💪💪💪💪🇸🇪🧙🏼♂️🇺🇦
True, but he does twice the volume of training that you recommend.
It doesn't change the rule to never go all out in training.😉 Doesn't matter if you are a high mileage or low mileage runner as long as you just keep on improving. 💪💪💪💪🇸🇪🧙🏼♂️🇺🇦
So what's so magical about 60 miles per week? You never explained that one.
True, but he does twice the volume of training that you recommend.
I just telling the same results can be done on just half the volume. What I recommend is to do individual best training paces with perfect individual recovery control that lead to improvement.💪🧙🏼♂️💪💪💪💪🇸🇪🇰🇪🇺🇦
It doesn't change the rule to never go all out in training.😉 Doesn't matter if you are a high mileage or low mileage runner as long as you just keep on improving. 💪💪💪💪🇸🇪🧙🏼♂️🇺🇦
So what's so magical about 60 miles per week? You never explained that one.
There is nothing magical about 60 miles per week. Where did you get that from? What looks to be magical is when you know how to perform e.g 60 mpw to get out the very best results of a given runner.🇸🇪🧙🏼♂️🇸🇪
I don't remember the whole conversation but it was with Lydiard and some of his takes on interval training. A problem with it, he said, and I 100% agreed, is that it's so easy to get sucked into wanting to run sessions that are SO impressive and it gets even easier if you're doing those sessions in a group. It's one thing to turn in such a session if it's just a by product of having a really good day and being in really good form. That can be great for your confidence. But STRAINING to get such sessions ("train don't strain") isn't going to do you much good.
I don't remember the whole conversation but it was with Lydiard and some of his takes on interval training. A problem with it, he said, and I 100% agreed, is that it's so easy to get sucked into wanting to run sessions that are SO impressive and it gets even easier if you're doing those sessions in a group. It's one thing to turn in such a session if it's just a by product of having a really good day and being in really good form. That can be great for your confidence. But STRAINING to get such sessions ("train don't strain") isn't going to do you much good.
Wise words HRE, thanks. The great Lydiard who once saw me running a 5000m and told I could be a very good runner.🙏🖐🧙🏼♂️🖐
What looks to be magical is when you know how to perform e.g 60 mpw to get out the very best results of a given runner.
Why hasn't your runner Sammy Nyokaye improved in 8 years?
Sammy had a fairly major accident with a motorcycle a few years back. It took him out of racing and training for years. As that was happening he was getting to an age where improvements are still possible but less and less likely. He's also at a stage in life where he needs to pick races based on the likelihood of winning money rather than maximizing performance.
Why hasn't your runner Sammy Nyokaye improved in 8 years?
Sammy had a fairly major accident with a motorcycle a few years back. It took him out of racing and training for years. As that was happening he was getting to an age where improvements are still possible but less and less likely. He's also at a stage in life where he needs to pick races based on the likelihood of winning money rather than maximizing performance.
That is incorrect. He was not out of racing and training for years. And that accident happened last year or two years ago. He hasn't improved since 2016. He was a 2:14/1:02 runner before meeting Jan. He improved a few seconds over each distance within a year and that's all.
Sammy had a fairly major accident with a motorcycle a few years back. It took him out of racing and training for years. As that was happening he was getting to an age where improvements are still possible but less and less likely. He's also at a stage in life where he needs to pick races based on the likelihood of winning money rather than maximizing performance.
That is incorrect. He was not out of racing and training for years. And that accident happened last year or two years ago. He hasn't improved since 2016. He was a 2:14/1:02 runner before meeting Jan. He improved a few seconds over each distance within a year and that's all.
That is incorrect. He was not out of racing and training for years. And that accident happened last year or two years ago. He hasn't improved since 2016. He was a 2:14/1:02 runner before meeting Jan. He improved a few seconds over each distance within a year and that's all.
That's different than what he's told me.
Jan wrote, on July 19, 2023:
"Sammy Nyokaye is at last back in full pace training after his nasty motorbike accident when he got hit from behind in Kiisumu half marathon last winter. Today a nice 20 x 400m @ 65-66 sec , 45-60 sec rest . Now we keep on to try reach our great goal a sub 2:10 marathon together."
So it took Sammy from late 2022 to July 2023 to be "back in full pace training".
How would you recommend determining how hard you should go in workouts if not 100%?
When Lydiard was with athletes doing reps he just watched them and could tell when one was working too hard. Then he'd either adjust the session or bag it. His idea with reps was that the later ones shouldn't require more effort than the early ones. He was never keen on paying attention to heart rates but he told me that one way to monitor an interval session was to check it after each rep. If it was only a couple or so beats different in the later reps than the early ones with similar times you were fine. But if it was climbing as the session went on you were "racing your" training and he'd say you should stop.
How would you recommend determining how hard you should go in workouts if not 100%?
When Lydiard was with athletes doing reps he just watched them and could tell when one was working too hard. Then he'd either adjust the session or bag it. His idea with reps was that the later ones shouldn't require more effort than the early ones. He was never keen on paying attention to heart rates but he told me that one way to monitor an interval session was to check it after each rep. If it was only a couple or so beats different in the later reps than the early ones with similar times you were fine. But if it was climbing as the session went on you were "racing your" training and he'd say you should stop.
The best source as to whether a workout is too hard, is the runner himself.
How would you recommend determining how hard you should go in workouts if not 100%?
When you do so called maxVO2 intervals they should be at your 5 k race pace. Famous Ph and coach Jack Daniels found out running them faster at 1500m- 3 k pace didn't give any significant difference in training result and therefore he adviced to stay at 5 k race pace when it reduced risk of overtraining and injury.Even when you do so called repetition intervals at 1500/mile race pace/ 3k pace they aren't and should not be at 100% maxVO2 pace. When you do so called threshold intervals they should be at about 88-92 % of max heartrate or if you use lactate measuring about 3,5- 4 mmol.As you read what HRE wrote what Lydiard avocated the first rep in a perfect interval session should be at same pace as the last one and difference in pulse after first rep and the last rep very little. Good luck with your training.If someone wants my expert help just send me a message. Runners at all levels and age are very welcome. 🇸🇪🧙🏼♂️🇸🇪 Coach J.S 👋