”Many users believe, for instance, that people cannot become addicted to cannabis. But millions do. About 18 million people — nearly a third of all users ages 18 and up — have reported symptoms of cannabis use disorder, according to estimates from a unique data analysis conducted for The Times by a Columbia University epidemiologist. That would mean they continue to use the drug despite significant negative effects on their lives. Of those, about three million people are considered addicted.”
“Jennifer Macaluso, a hairdresser in Elgin, Ill., turned to the drug in her 40s when a doctor suggested it to help her severe migraines….Within months came episodes of nausea and vomiting so debilitating that she had to stop working.
About a dozen doctors misdiagnosed the problem. One removed her gallbladder, another her breast implants. Several chalked up her symptoms to menopause.
After searching online in 2022, Ms. Macaluso suspected she had cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, a condition caused by heavy cannabis use and marked by nausea, vomiting and pain.”
”A telltale sign of cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome is that heat often temporarily relieves the nausea and vomiting. Hundreds of people recounted to The Times, in interviews and survey responses, that they had spent hour after hour in hot baths and showers. Some were burned by scalding water. One teenager was injured when, in desperation, he pressed his body against a hot car.”
”Many physicians said that they have seen growing numbers of patients with cannabis-induced temporary psychosis — lasting hours, days or even months. While it is more common among younger consumers, it can afflict people of all ages, whether heavy or first-time users, and with or without a family history or other risk factors for psychosis.
Dr. Levy and other physicians have also seen a rise in chronic psychotic disorders, such as schizophrenia, in which they believe cannabis was a contributing factor.”
“Jennifer Macaluso, a hairdresser in Elgin, Ill., turned to the drug in her 40s when a doctor suggested it to help her severe migraines….Within months came episodes of nausea and vomiting so debilitating that she had to stop working.
About a dozen doctors misdiagnosed the problem. One removed her gallbladder, another her breast implants. Several chalked up her symptoms to menopause.
After searching online in 2022, Ms. Macaluso suspected she had cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, a condition caused by heavy cannabis use and marked by nausea, vomiting and pain.”
What baloney.
Weed treats nauses and vomiting extremely successfully.
“Jennifer Macaluso, a hairdresser in Elgin, Ill., turned to the drug in her 40s when a doctor suggested it to help her severe migraines….Within months came episodes of nausea and vomiting so debilitating that she had to stop working.
About a dozen doctors misdiagnosed the problem. One removed her gallbladder, another her breast implants. Several chalked up her symptoms to menopause.
After searching online in 2022, Ms. Macaluso suspected she had cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, a condition caused by heavy cannabis use and marked by nausea, vomiting and pain.”
What baloney.
Weed treats nauses and vomiting extremely successfully.
Have seen this myself
That’s the point - a lot of people react differently.
“There is no other quote-unquote medicine in the history of our country where your doctor will say, ‘Go experiment and tell me what happens,’” said Carrie Bearden, a clinical psychologist and neuroscientist at the University of California, Los Angeles.”
And the marijuana addicts, along with the ideologically militant, work hard to repress any suggestion that marijuana might be in any way harmful. We gotta get baked without gettin hassled by The Man, man. Nothing must get in the way of pursuing mind altering pleasure at any moment.
“When Alice Moon, 35, a prominent cannabis marketer, was diagnosed in 2018, she tried to educate colleagues at conferences and in published articles. The responses, she said, ranged from dismissive to hostile.
“I’ve gotten a lot of hate,” Ms. Moon said. “I’ve been bullied. People in the industry say I’m a Big Pharma plant.”
Most of the roughly 600 people with C.H.S. who responded to the Times survey said they too had been disbelieved by colleagues, friends or relatives, or accused of trying to sabotage marijuana legalization.”
Weed treats nauses and vomiting extremely successfully.
Have seen this myself
That’s the point - a lot of people react differently.
“There is no other quote-unquote medicine in the history of our country where your doctor will say, ‘Go experiment and tell me what happens,’” said Carrie Bearden, a clinical psychologist and neuroscientist at the University of California, Los Angeles.”
So you mean, like, because I know a lot of frat boys who routinely drank themselves stupid but never became alcoholics, there is still such a thing as alcoholism?
And because I can find medications prescribed by doctors that treat illnesses incredibly well, it’s entirely possible for the same medications to have different side effects for different people?
Weed treats nauses and vomiting extremely successfully.
Have seen this myself
That’s the point - a lot of people react differently.
“There is no other quote-unquote medicine in the history of our country where your doctor will say, ‘Go experiment and tell me what happens,’” said Carrie Bearden, a clinical psychologist and neuroscientist at the University of California, Los Angeles.”
Nope. Human beings are the same. I have known many people who hve successfully used weed to treat nausea an vomiting with extreme and oft immediate success. Never known a single person who vomited from weed. Alcohol? Sure. Weed" No chance.
Propaganda. Probably from the alcohol industry and Big Pharma
That’s the point - a lot of people react differently.
“There is no other quote-unquote medicine in the history of our country where your doctor will say, ‘Go experiment and tell me what happens,’” said Carrie Bearden, a clinical psychologist and neuroscientist at the University of California, Los Angeles.”
Nope. Human beings are the same. I have known many people who hve successfully used weed to treat nausea an vomiting with extreme and oft immediate success. Never known a single person who vomited from weed. Alcohol? Sure. Weed" No chance.
Propaganda. Probably from the alcohol industry and Big Pharma
Ah yes “you never knew anyone” therefore it must be true for all people everywhere. The scientists, doctors, people who have suffered from marijuana addiction, and the New York Times, which is extremely liberal, must all be wrong. Josh Burbs knew somebody!
Oh no, because some people became addicted (you can be addicted to anything) and others had adverse effects, Marijuana must be bad for everyone! Just ignore the fact that alcohol routinely destroys more lives and kills more people, or the pills big pharma pushes for that matter. Has anyone died from delirium tremens from Marijuana withdrawal? Yes, abusing Marijuana every day and being addicted to it is bad, but seems hypocritical to ban it when there's other substances that are legal that cause far more harm to heavy users
There's lots of misinformation about weed. When I was a child my father was a daily smoker. He did it discreetly but I knew. It made him violent. I smoked it only two or three times and it had the same effect on me so I never did it again.
Oh no, because some people became addicted (you can be addicted to anything) and others had adverse effects, Marijuana must be bad for everyone! Just ignore the fact that alcohol routinely destroys more lives and kills more people, or the pills big pharma pushes for that matter. Has anyone died from delirium tremens from Marijuana withdrawal? Yes, abusing Marijuana every day and being addicted to it is bad, but seems hypocritical to ban it when there's other substances that are legal that cause far more harm to heavy users
That alcohol is worse is a poor argument for making marijuana easily available
Oh no, because some people became addicted (you can be addicted to anything) and others had adverse effects, Marijuana must be bad for everyone! Just ignore the fact that alcohol routinely destroys more lives and kills more people, or the pills big pharma pushes for that matter. Has anyone died from delirium tremens from Marijuana withdrawal? Yes, abusing Marijuana every day and being addicted to it is bad, but seems hypocritical to ban it when there's other substances that are legal that cause far more harm to heavy users
I don’t follow your logic. “Other things are worse than marijuana…so we can do nothing about marijuana.”
That makes absolutely no sense. “Murder is worse than auto theft…so until there are no more murders, it would be HYPOCRITICAL to do anything about auto theft!”
I use marijuana medically, once every evening, and I definitely have physical withdrawals when I skip a night. No sleep or waking up with terrible, drenching night sweats. Headaches and miserable moods the next day.
People aren't developing CHS from a daily joint or edible. Products like RSO, dabs, live rosin cartridges --- those are intense and lead to extreme amounts of THC in the body.
Oh no, because some people became addicted (you can be addicted to anything) and others had adverse effects, Marijuana must be bad for everyone! Just ignore the fact that alcohol routinely destroys more lives and kills more people, or the pills big pharma pushes for that matter. Has anyone died from delirium tremens from Marijuana withdrawal? Yes, abusing Marijuana every day and being addicted to it is bad, but seems hypocritical to ban it when there's other substances that are legal that cause far more harm to heavy users
What are you saying? Is it necessary to infer “marijuana must be bad for everyone” from “marijuana is addictive”?
And it it necessarily hypocritical? Do you think this will be the same thing as the bans you suggest? If anyone is calling for bans, do you think those people are likely to be big supporters of alcohol or opioid use?
How about the likelihood that increasing legalization, increasing availability and increasingly common use send one tacit message about the levels of risk related to marijuana use? The message a lot of people receive is: It lacks certain harmful effects of alcohol and tobacco, and it lacks the addiction problems of opiods. Many people are likely then to pay scant attention to any risk at all, whether we consider that risk relatively high or relatively low.
How about you also consider the strength of marijuana now versus what has available even 10 years ago, much less 50 years ago, and acknowledge that there’s relatively little data available for long-term use, especially for those who begin using it when young?
So maybe warning people of risks doesn’t have to amount to scare tactics and hysteria, or the all-or-nothing idiocy you think people are too likely to engage in?
Maybe instead it’s a set of facts one can use in making responsible, reasoned decisions.
Oh no, because some people became addicted (you can be addicted to anything) and others had adverse effects, Marijuana must be bad for everyone! Just ignore the fact that alcohol routinely destroys more lives and kills more people, or the pills big pharma pushes for that matter. Has anyone died from delirium tremens from Marijuana withdrawal? Yes, abusing Marijuana every day and being addicted to it is bad, but seems hypocritical to ban it when there's other substances that are legal that cause far more harm to heavy users
What are you saying? Is it necessary to infer “marijuana must be bad for everyone” from “marijuana is addictive”?
And it it necessarily hypocritical? Do you think this will be the same thing as the bans you suggest? If anyone is calling for bans, do you think those people are likely to be big supporters of alcohol or opioid use?
How about the likelihood that increasing legalization, increasing availability and increasingly common use send one tacit message about the levels of risk related to marijuana use? The message a lot of people receive is: It lacks certain harmful effects of alcohol and tobacco, and it lacks the addiction problems of opiods. Many people are likely then to pay scant attention to any risk at all, whether we consider that risk relatively high or relatively low.
How about you also consider the strength of marijuana now versus what has available even 10 years ago, much less 50 years ago, and acknowledge that there’s relatively little data available for long-term use, especially for those who begin using it when young?
So maybe warning people of risks doesn’t have to amount to scare tactics and hysteria, or the all-or-nothing idiocy you think people are too likely to engage in?
Maybe instead it’s a set of facts one can use in making responsible, reasoned decisions.
Best post of this entire thread. Thank you for bringing logic and moral sensibilities to the discussion.
