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  • habs

    Member since 07/05/2014.

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    1 year ago 10/17/2024 7:27pm EDT

    so GST announced the signing of Ackera Nugent and Roshawn Clarke today. It's their 19th and 20th athlete so far, and it's also the first time they have actually completed an event group -- Russell, Samba-Mayela, Camacho-Quinn, and Nugent are now set for the women's short hurdles. here's the complete list by date with their best Worlds/Olympics finish:

    Long Hurdles Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone (USA)[11] 18 Jun 2024 1st (2021, 2022, 2024)
    Short Distance Josh Kerr (GBR)[9] 27 Jun 2024 1st (2023)
    Short Distance Yared Nuguse (USA)[12] 4 Sep 2024 3rd (2024)
    Short Distance Cole Hocker (USA)[12] 4 Sep 2024 1st (2024)
    Short Sprints Kenny Bednarek (USA)[13] 12 Sep 2024 2nd (2021, 2022, 2024)
    Short Sprints Fred Kerley (USA)[13] 12 Sep 2024 1st (2022)
    Short Sprints Melissa Jefferson (USA)[25] 19 Sep 2024 3rd (2024)
    Short Hurdles Masai Russell (USA)[26] 25 Sep 2024 1st (2024)
    Short Hurdles Cyrena Samba-Mayela (FRA)[26] 25 Sep 2024 2nd (2024)
    Short Hurdles Jasmine Camacho-Quinn (PUR)[26] 25 Sep 2024 1st (2021)
    Long Sprints Muzala Samukonga (ZAM)[21] 26 Sep 2024 3rd (2024)
    Long Hurdles Alison Dos Santos (BRA)[21] 26 Sep 2024 1st (2022)
    Long Hurdles Clément Ducos (FRA)[21] 26 Sep 2024 4th (2024)
    Long Sprints Quincy Hall (USA)[22] 10 Oct 2024 1st (2024)
    Long Sprints Matthew Hudson-Smith (GBR)[22] 10 Oct 2024 2nd (2023, 2024)
    Long Distance Grant Fisher (USA)[24] 15 Oct 2024 3rd (2024)
    Long Distance Ronald Kwemoi (KEN)[24] 15 Oct 2024 2nd (2024)
    Short Distance Nikki Hiltz (USA)[27] 15 Oct 2024 7th (2024)
    Long Hurdles Roshawn Clarke (JAM)[23] 17 Oct 2024 4th (2023)
    Short Hurdles Ackera Nugent (JAM)[23] 17 Oct 2024 5th (2023)

    For GST to really be "only the fastest" like they claim, they would need to be signing people who at least finished top 4 at a recent Worlds/Olympics because there are only 4 spots per event group.

    They did exactly that up until 2 days ago, when Hiltz became their first non-top-4 signing (7th at the Paris Olympics). But okay, they won world indoor silver so you could make a case. Now today, they signed Clarke, who was 4th at '23 Worlds, and Nugent, whose best senior global finish was only 5th last year (she DNFed the Olympic final).

    At some point, the star power had to fade. But is this the beginning of the end for GST? The more 5th, 6th, and 7th place finishers they sign from here on out, that's one less spot to a medallist that could have been signed for their first season.

    Discus

    This post was edited 19 minutes after it was posted.

  • Your Loss

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 10/17/2024 7:48pm EDT
    re: habs

    I will not use the word discus instead of discuss, just to fit in with this Lame Website. Discuss!

  • Idiot proof thread

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 10/17/2024 7:56pm EDT
    re: habs

    Top 8 in the World is scraping the bottom of the barrel? Also seems like they are favoring Americans - which makes sense since all the meets will be in the US.

  • USA Typical

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 10/17/2024 8:21pm EDT
    re: habs

    it's a demo Type E meet with 1-2000 fans

  • you gotta want it colbert

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 10/17/2024 9:36pm EDT
    re: habs

    habs wrote:

    so GST announced the signing of Ackera Nugent and Roshawn Clarke today. It's their 19th and 20th athlete so far, and it's also the first time they have actually completed an event group -- Russell, Samba-Mayela, Camacho-Quinn, and Nugent are now set for the women's short hurdles. here's the complete list by date with their best Worlds/Olympics finish:

    Long Hurdles Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone (USA)[11] 18 Jun 2024 1st (2021, 2022, 2024)
    Short Distance Josh Kerr (GBR)[9] 27 Jun 2024 1st (2023)
    Short Distance Yared Nuguse (USA)[12] 4 Sep 2024 3rd (2024)
    Short Distance Cole Hocker (USA)[12] 4 Sep 2024 1st (2024)
    Short Sprints Kenny Bednarek (USA)[13] 12 Sep 2024 2nd (2021, 2022, 2024)
    Short Sprints Fred Kerley (USA)[13] 12 Sep 2024 1st (2022)
    Short Sprints Melissa Jefferson (USA)[25] 19 Sep 2024 3rd (2024)
    Short Hurdles Masai Russell (USA)[26] 25 Sep 2024 1st (2024)
    Short Hurdles Cyrena Samba-Mayela (FRA)[26] 25 Sep 2024 2nd (2024)
    Short Hurdles Jasmine Camacho-Quinn (PUR)[26] 25 Sep 2024 1st (2021)
    Long Sprints Muzala Samukonga (ZAM)[21] 26 Sep 2024 3rd (2024)
    Long Hurdles Alison Dos Santos (BRA)[21] 26 Sep 2024 1st (2022)
    Long Hurdles Clément Ducos (FRA)[21] 26 Sep 2024 4th (2024)
    Long Sprints Quincy Hall (USA)[22] 10 Oct 2024 1st (2024)
    Long Sprints Matthew Hudson-Smith (GBR)[22] 10 Oct 2024 2nd (2023, 2024)
    Long Distance Grant Fisher (USA)[24] 15 Oct 2024 3rd (2024)
    Long Distance Ronald Kwemoi (KEN)[24] 15 Oct 2024 2nd (2024)
    Short Distance Nikki Hiltz (USA)[27] 15 Oct 2024 7th (2024)
    Long Hurdles Roshawn Clarke (JAM)[23] 17 Oct 2024 4th (2023)
    Short Hurdles Ackera Nugent (JAM)[23] 17 Oct 2024 5th (2023)

    For GST to really be "only the fastest" like they claim, they would need to be signing people who at least finished top 4 at a recent Worlds/Olympics because there are only 4 spots per event group.

    They did exactly that up until 2 days ago, when Hiltz became their first non-top-4 signing (7th at the Paris Olympics). But okay, they won world indoor silver so you could make a case. Now today, they signed Clarke, who was 4th at '23 Worlds, and Nugent, whose best senior global finish was only 5th last year (she DNFed the Olympic final).

    At some point, the star power had to fade. But is this the beginning of the end for GST? The more 5th, 6th, and 7th place finishers they sign from here on out, that's one less spot to a medallist that could have been signed for their first season.

    Discus

    credit where credit is due, short hurdles and long hurdles are infuriatingly excellent trolling.

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    5thinstate

    Member since 09/26/2024.

    145 posts. Last post 1 year ago.
    1 year ago 10/17/2024 11:59pm EDT
    re: habs

    It’s good that Jamaicans are a part of this. Silver medalist Thompson would be great but he hasn’t run 200m so it had to fall to someone.

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    Runner930420

    Member since 03/11/2021.

    34 posts. Last post 1 year ago.
    1 year ago 10/18/2024 8:27am EDT
    re: habs

    Nugent is the obvious choice for the 4th short hurdler. She was the world leader in the hurdles this year, and went on a DL tear after hitting a hurdle in the olympic final consistently beating Masai and Cyrena. Clarke is an interesting pick, but it is very likely because either Warholm or Benjamin has said no.

  • Sleeping Fireman

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 10/18/2024 8:49am EDT
    re: you gotta want it colbert

    you gotta want it colbert wrote:

    habs wrote:

    so GST announced the signing of Ackera Nugent and Roshawn Clarke today. It's their 19th and 20th athlete so far, and it's also the first time they have actually completed an event group -- Russell, Samba-Mayela, Camacho-Quinn, and Nugent are now set for the women's short hurdles. here's the complete list by date with their best Worlds/Olympics finish:

    Long Hurdles Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone (USA)[11] 18 Jun 2024 1st (2021, 2022, 2024)
    Short Distance Josh Kerr (GBR)[9] 27 Jun 2024 1st (2023)
    Short Distance Yared Nuguse (USA)[12] 4 Sep 2024 3rd (2024)
    Short Distance Cole Hocker (USA)[12] 4 Sep 2024 1st (2024)
    Short Sprints Kenny Bednarek (USA)[13] 12 Sep 2024 2nd (2021, 2022, 2024)
    Short Sprints Fred Kerley (USA)[13] 12 Sep 2024 1st (2022)
    Short Sprints Melissa Jefferson (USA)[25] 19 Sep 2024 3rd (2024)
    Short Hurdles Masai Russell (USA)[26] 25 Sep 2024 1st (2024)
    Short Hurdles Cyrena Samba-Mayela (FRA)[26] 25 Sep 2024 2nd (2024)
    Short Hurdles Jasmine Camacho-Quinn (PUR)[26] 25 Sep 2024 1st (2021)
    Long Sprints Muzala Samukonga (ZAM)[21] 26 Sep 2024 3rd (2024)
    Long Hurdles Alison Dos Santos (BRA)[21] 26 Sep 2024 1st (2022)
    Long Hurdles Clément Ducos (FRA)[21] 26 Sep 2024 4th (2024)
    Long Sprints Quincy Hall (USA)[22] 10 Oct 2024 1st (2024)
    Long Sprints Matthew Hudson-Smith (GBR)[22] 10 Oct 2024 2nd (2023, 2024)
    Long Distance Grant Fisher (USA)[24] 15 Oct 2024 3rd (2024)
    Long Distance Ronald Kwemoi (KEN)[24] 15 Oct 2024 2nd (2024)
    Short Distance Nikki Hiltz (USA)[27] 15 Oct 2024 7th (2024)
    Long Hurdles Roshawn Clarke (JAM)[23] 17 Oct 2024 4th (2023)
    Short Hurdles Ackera Nugent (JAM)[23] 17 Oct 2024 5th (2023)

    For GST to really be "only the fastest" like they claim, they would need to be signing people who at least finished top 4 at a recent Worlds/Olympics because there are only 4 spots per event group.

    They did exactly that up until 2 days ago, when Hiltz became their first non-top-4 signing (7th at the Paris Olympics). But okay, they won world indoor silver so you could make a case. Now today, they signed Clarke, who was 4th at '23 Worlds, and Nugent, whose best senior global finish was only 5th last year (she DNFed the Olympic final).

    At some point, the star power had to fade. But is this the beginning of the end for GST? The more 5th, 6th, and 7th place finishers they sign from here on out, that's one less spot to a medallist that could have been signed for their first season.

    Discus

    credit where credit is due, short hurdles and long hurdles are infuriatingly excellent trolling.

    Nothing is as stupid as "short distance" for middle distance events.

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    5thinstate

    Member since 09/26/2024.

    145 posts. Last post 1 year ago.
    1 year ago 10/18/2024 8:49am EDT
    re: Runner930420

    Runner930420 wrote:

    Clarke is an interesting pick, but it is very likely because either Warholm or Benjamin has said no.

    Yep, with only one spot remaining, it’s clear now that at least one of those guys gave a hard, no.

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    Gucci

    Member since 03/11/2019.

    645 posts. Last post 1 month ago.
    1 year ago 10/18/2024 11:17am EDT
    re: Idiot proof thread

    Idiot proof thread wrote:

    Top 8 in the World is scraping the bottom of the barrel? Also seems like they are favoring Americans - which makes sense since all the meets will be in the US.

    .IIRC, they said 2/4 meets would be in the US and the other 2 would be outside.

  • ivyrunner

    Member since 08/12/2009.

    54 posts. Last post 1 month ago.
    1 year ago 10/18/2024 1:13pm EDT
    re: Gucci

    On the LRC podcast they said that they heard that the two international meets are going to be in the UK and Jamaica.

  • Streamer

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 10/18/2024 1:16pm EDT
    re: habs

    Will I have to buy Flo track to watch this?

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    5thinstate

    Member since 09/26/2024.

    145 posts. Last post 1 year ago.
    1 year ago 10/18/2024 6:04pm EDT
    re: ivyrunner

    ivyrunner wrote:

    On the LRC podcast they said that they heard that the two international meets are going to be in the UK and Jamaica.

    Now that’s cool! Jamaica is the perfect place to have a meet. no first world problems of, who’s going to care about a professional 3 day track meet, and it plays to the us/ Jamaica rivalry, takes it to an ignored Diamondbacks league destination, and is just cool.

    link to that podcast, please?

  • Crows

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 10/18/2024 7:06pm EDT
    re: habs

    Will they even get enough athlete to fill the fields? They aren't even close in any event groups at the moment.

  • R u thicc

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 10/18/2024 9:51pm EDT
    re: habs

    You do realize there’s only 3 athletes who could be Top 3 by your logic, right? I mean, they’ll have to get down to 7 or 8 for 8 person fields…

  • newaccountsinceyourwebsitesucks

    Member since 07/06/2023.

    915 posts. Last post 7 months ago.
    1 year ago 10/18/2024 10:20pm EDT
    re: ivyrunner

    ivyrunner wrote:

    On the LRC podcast they said that they heard that the two international meets are going to be in the UK and Jamaica.

    I hope this is true. I understand diamond league meet locations are pretty well established at this point but not having one in Jamaica is definitely a missed opportunity. Stands would be filled beyond belief.

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    OlympicContest

    Member since 07/29/2024.

    227 posts. Last post 8 months ago.
    1 year ago 10/18/2024 10:59pm EDT
    re: habs

    Doomed to failure I’m afraid. Just can’t make the average American care about track. It’s an individual sport, no team or city to root for.

  • Just me

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 10/19/2024 1:28am EDT
    re: habs

    habs wrote:

    so GST announced the signing of Ackera Nugent and Roshawn Clarke today. It's their 19th and 20th athlete so far, and it's also the first time they have actually completed an event group -- Russell, Samba-Mayela, Camacho-Quinn, and Nugent are now set for the women's short hurdles. here's the complete list by date with their best Worlds/Olympics finish:

    Long Hurdles Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone (USA)[11] 18 Jun 2024 1st (2021, 2022, 2024)
    Short Distance Josh Kerr (GBR)[9] 27 Jun 2024 1st (2023)
    Short Distance Yared Nuguse (USA)[12] 4 Sep 2024 3rd (2024)
    Short Distance Cole Hocker (USA)[12] 4 Sep 2024 1st (2024)
    Short Sprints Kenny Bednarek (USA)[13] 12 Sep 2024 2nd (2021, 2022, 2024)
    Short Sprints Fred Kerley (USA)[13] 12 Sep 2024 1st (2022)
    Short Sprints Melissa Jefferson (USA)[25] 19 Sep 2024 3rd (2024)
    Short Hurdles Masai Russell (USA)[26] 25 Sep 2024 1st (2024)
    Short Hurdles Cyrena Samba-Mayela (FRA)[26] 25 Sep 2024 2nd (2024)
    Short Hurdles Jasmine Camacho-Quinn (PUR)[26] 25 Sep 2024 1st (2021)
    Long Sprints Muzala Samukonga (ZAM)[21] 26 Sep 2024 3rd (2024)
    Long Hurdles Alison Dos Santos (BRA)[21] 26 Sep 2024 1st (2022)
    Long Hurdles Clément Ducos (FRA)[21] 26 Sep 2024 4th (2024)
    Long Sprints Quincy Hall (USA)[22] 10 Oct 2024 1st (2024)
    Long Sprints Matthew Hudson-Smith (GBR)[22] 10 Oct 2024 2nd (2023, 2024)
    Long Distance Grant Fisher (USA)[24] 15 Oct 2024 3rd (2024)
    Long Distance Ronald Kwemoi (KEN)[24] 15 Oct 2024 2nd (2024)
    Short Distance Nikki Hiltz (USA)[27] 15 Oct 2024 7th (2024)
    Long Hurdles Roshawn Clarke (JAM)[23] 17 Oct 2024 4th (2023)
    Short Hurdles Ackera Nugent (JAM)[23] 17 Oct 2024 5th (2023)

    For GST to really be "only the fastest" like they claim, they would need to be signing people who at least finished top 4 at a recent Worlds/Olympics because there are only 4 spots per event group.

    They did exactly that up until 2 days ago, when Hiltz became their first non-top-4 signing (7th at the Paris Olympics). But okay, they won world indoor silver so you could make a case. Now today, they signed Clarke, who was 4th at '23 Worlds, and Nugent, whose best senior global finish was only 5th last year (she DNFed the Olympic final).

    At some point, the star power had to fade. But is this the beginning of the end for GST? The more 5th, 6th, and 7th place finishers they sign from here on out, that's one less spot to a medallist that could have been signed for their first season.

    Discus

    I just can’t with the “they” nonsense.

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    5thinstate

    Member since 09/26/2024.

    145 posts. Last post 1 year ago.
    1 year ago 10/19/2024 9:02am EDT
    re: Just me

    Just me wrote:

    I just can’t with the “they” nonsense.

    That’s okay, we can. In the meantime, just use names until you get used to it. Also notice where you’re already using singular “they” in everyday language. It’ll help.

  • just for fun

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 10/19/2024 9:09am EDT
    re: habs

    Hopefully this will have the feel of a real comp vs an exhibition, otherwise

    Harlem Globe Trotters vs Washington Generals in 3....2....1.

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