Emma Bates: "We Are 2:18, 2:19 [Shape], For Sure"

The royal "we" from a driver is acceptable in auto racing, where in fact 20 people are working on the car before the driver ever gets in it.

Runners using the royal "we" to talk about their prep just sounds cluelessly pretentious at best, and sound as sus as the doping athlete who can't shut up about Jesus (not that there's any doubt Emma Bates dopes as much as every other elite marathoner).

Only one person is running those miles and doing 90% of the work. You pretty much never see tennis players or other solo athletes go "we" when talking about their training, even if coaches, agents, personal chefs and other support are behind them.

If the support's getting their money every month like they should, that's all the fealty and thanks an athlete needs to give them. Referring to "we" or anything more just makes them look like a tool.

Underestimate EB at your own risk.

Emma - Do it for Thelma !!!!

Is Emma Bates a name or a sentence?

It's a ridiculous trope. It signifies a lack of confidence to use "we/us" rather than "I/me," an attempt to retreat to the comfort of the support system team. Like it's spreading the accountability around, which is certainly fine in private quarters but looks weak in a press conference or other public facing manner. Sorry Joe, you won't get listed in any record book should Bates ever set an AR.

...'benevolent'? Yeah sure.

Apparently a "they/them"

Biceps.

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I haven't watched or read any coverage yet but I'm sure Emma's excuse for Sunday's disappointing effort was something like, "We didn't expect [whatever problem she ended up blaming]...."

I really dislike when coaches set up predictor workouts or tell an athlete they are in X shape.

Obviously you have goal times and current fitness which dictate workouts but don’t lock in a result.

Especially in a marathon where it is so long and mental, athlete thinks they are performing poorly by not running at certain paces etc.

She obviously in great shape, maybe their data is off

She wasnt in 218 shape, but if she had been, so what, thats 9 minutes back from the winner. Not elite.

as brosjo never use royal "we" as they use royal "us" as in - "us here brojos ain't not care about no stinkin grammar" or as in singular - "us can't figure out how to open that there garage door as us is being blocked from my nap couch by them raccoons"

She said she’d been dealing with hamstring and glute tendinopathy.

No idea of how much that impacted her race.

So she, er, they weren't prepared to go 2:17-2:18. And they knew it.

Yes. Watching back that video doesn’t really make sense. She says training had gone well and she was hitting all her paces easily. Then afterwards ‘we were dealing with some hamstring and glute tendinopathy before this race so we weren’t able to go as big as we had hoped’ still all ‘we’.

She told letsrun after the race that it was windy and hot. Which, if true, means the winners probably could've run even faster in ideal conditions.,