How is that insane for a beginner. The man has run 12:54 for 5000m. He has an aerobic capacity in the top .001 of the world. His biking is not that impressive in comparison. But I am not knocking it either.
FTP (threshold power) - I'm guessing 3.0-3.50. Above 4.0 is semi pro level, I think. Teare, obviously has a great engine. If he transitioned to cycling, like the Canadian 3:56 miler....who is a fixture....he could, possibly attain pro level...
FTP (threshold power) - I'm guessing 3.0-3.50. Above 4.0 is semi pro level, I think. Teare, obviously has a great engine. If he transitioned to cycling, like the Canadian 3:56 miler....who is a fixture....he could, possibly attain pro level...
this is one of the funniest things i've seen on a LR cycling thread in a while
Cooper Teare, sub-13 5000 guy with a possible FTP of 3.0 w/kg
"above 4.0 is semi-pro level" is like saying "17:00 for 5000 is semi-pro level"
FTP (threshold power) - I'm guessing 3.0-3.50. Above 4.0 is semi pro level, I think. Teare, obviously has a great engine. If he transitioned to cycling, like the Canadian 3:56 miler....who is a fixture....he could, possibly attain pro level...
this is one of the funniest things i've seen on a LR cycling thread in a while
Cooper Teare, sub-13 5000 guy with a possible FTP of 3.0 w/kg
"above 4.0 is semi-pro level" is like saying "17:00 for 5000 is semi-pro level"
Exactly. The amount of misinformation in this thread is crazy. 20mph for an hour is very doable for an ok runner who is modestly bike trained. That’s like easy 1 hour run pace for a 40 min 10k runner. 4 per kg is not semi pro, that’s the level where you’d say ok this person has some natural talent or takes biking fairly seriously. Semi pro would be more like 5 to 5.5 w / kg which is a world of difference from 4 and actual pro is 6+ which is a world of difference from 5.
How is that insane for a beginner. The man has run 12:54 for 5000m. He has an aerobic capacity in the top .001 of the world. His biking is not that impressive in comparison. But I am not knocking it either.
Professional cyclists have a higher VO2max than runners.
I don't know shit about cycling and even I know this isn't impressive. When I was in college and injured, I had a 20 mile route I would try to finish in under an hour on my crappy mountain bike. Granted I was hammering it, but it was a hilly route. I would expect a pro endurance athlete on a road bike to do that in his sleep.
A tangent here: Cycling is risky. Top road cyclists break bones. Cadel Evans won the Tour de France in 2011. He suffered a fractured collar bone thrice in one year. One severe crash and a career can end. Remember Joseba Beloki who crashed just in front of Lance Armstrong causing Armstrong to veer off the road across a loop of dirt and grass, dismount, scurry with his bike down a slight slope, and remount his bike on the road? That crash ended Beloki's career. Remember Lukas Verzbicas? A bicycle crash effectively ended his career as a runner or triathlete. I don't like the risk-reward considerations of cycling for a runner. Protective gear like the stuff that mountain bikers wear could lower some of the risks. I suppose using a bicycle to commute might change some of the considerations slightly, but there are less risky ways of cross-training for runners.
Why are people knocking this? It’s actually true. And it shouldn’t come as a shock as cyclists can do way higher volume than runners due to the almost zero impact their body experiences. That’s also the reason why they race so often at such a high intensity and are still able to turn around and do it again for months at a time. Just imagine you’re doing Zone 2 training for 5-6 hours a day, and think about how much you would benefit from an endurance perspective. I don’t think this means cyclists are “better” athletes, but their sport allows them to do some things aerobically that runners can’t do just by the nature of the sport.
Top professional cyclists average over 50km/31 miles in a one hour time trial. Professional Ironman triathletes average over 25 mph for the 112 mile time trial in the bike portion of a triathlon. Averaging 20 mph for one hour on a bike is about the equivalent performance as running 8:30 miles for an hour. Not impressive.
this is one of the funniest things i've seen on a LR cycling thread in a while
Cooper Teare, sub-13 5000 guy with a possible FTP of 3.0 w/kg
"above 4.0 is semi-pro level" is like saying "17:00 for 5000 is semi-pro level"
Exactly. The amount of misinformation in this thread is crazy. 20mph for an hour is very doable for an ok runner who is modestly bike trained. That’s like easy 1 hour run pace for a 40 min 10k runner. 4 per kg is not semi pro, that’s the level where you’d say ok this person has some natural talent or takes biking fairly seriously. Semi pro would be more like 5 to 5.5 w / kg which is a world of difference from 4 and actual pro is 6+ which is a world of difference from 5.
There are lots of pros below 6. Not everybody is a climber
Top professional cyclists average over 50km/31 miles in a one hour time trial. Professional Ironman triathletes average over 25 mph for the 112 mile time trial in the bike portion of a triathlon. Averaging 20 mph for one hour on a bike is about the equivalent performance as running 8:30 miles for an hour. Not impressive.
Yeah that’s cus they’re racing and on time trial bikes.
Obviously that’s way different than biking easy on a road bike and I’m sure Teare could go way faster in a time trial as well.
A tangent here: Cycling is risky. Top road cyclists break bones. Cadel Evans won the Tour de France in 2011. He suffered a fractured collar bone thrice in one year. One severe crash and a career can end. Remember Joseba Beloki who crashed just in front of Lance Armstrong causing Armstrong to veer off the road across a loop of dirt and grass, dismount, scurry with his bike down a slight slope, and remount his bike on the road? That crash ended Beloki's career. Remember Lukas Verzbicas? A bicycle crash effectively ended his career as a runner or triathlete. I don't like the risk-reward considerations of cycling for a runner. Protective gear like the stuff that mountain bikers wear could lower some of the risks. I suppose using a bicycle to commute might change some of the considerations slightly, but there are less risky ways of cross-training for runners.
You consider a ride at 20mph to be comparable to a TDF descent at 50 mph? I rode on the American River Bike Trail many times at about 20mph, and never had even a close call. At that speed, even if you fall, about 90% of the time you will only have road rash to show for it.