Maybe the world's best runners wouldn't dominate the ultras- Suguru Osako ran a UTMB race two weeks after Paris and was 52nd

If they trained for it yes but marathons vs ultras definitely require a different skillset and training buildup. Victor Kiplangat was the world mountain running champion but placed 37th at the Olympics. I think a similar comparison between the marathon vs an ultra is apt.

He didn’t properly train for it so I’m pretty sure he was wrecked on the downhills

Much like every other <2:10 marathoner, another delicate snowflake.

(1) it was two week after paris

(2) he didn't train for it

(3) if he trained for it and was well rested he would've done better

also the race was at altitude and he has no altitude experience

Suguru does this stuff all the time. He’s not really into long buildups.

you're thinking of a different japanese marathoner

Ultras are the most mindnumbingly boring “running” event of them all. Who cares if some turtle slopped through 1000 billion miles? It’s only popular because most can’t grasp how to train for SPEED, and in turn just decide to go longer even if it means basically walking

If there is one thing I've learned on LRC it's that Kipchoge would destroy a hilly marathon.

If there are two things, it is that anyone can train to be good at 100 miles.

Never mind the resident ultra influencer with 20 years of training has never had a good 100 mile result and Kipchoge is horrible at hilly marathons.

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UTTER NONSENSE. No one fully recovered from the Paris Olympics Marathon in just 2 weeks. He was running on tired legs and the trails clearly REVEALED just how much he HAD NOT fully recovered from the Olympic marathon.

That take was hotter than a Butterball straight out of Grandma's oven. UTMB and Western States are just hiking contests and you should be praised to turning back a bunch of jet lagged middle aged men and hungover college kids on a Thursday morning.

Do you a free pair of shoes and a singlet from your local running store or just a 15% discount for being their "almost pro" poster child?

Cool. Maybe you should post that in a thread about an ultra and not a thread about 25 mile race.

what makes you think a race shorter than a marathon is an ultra?

What does it say when the guy decides to run it as a lark and beats most of the field…

Speed is a massive disadvantage at the ultra distance. Thinking marathoners would dominate ultras is like thinking Noah Lyles could step up to 5k and dominate.

What makes Lyles a world class sprinter means he has no possibility of ever becoming a good mid-d runner. It’s the same thing.

In order to be good at ultras you need to be an extremely slow human.

MCC is UTMB's equivalent to the Mass Participation Marathon in Paris. Anyone that finished UTMB itself could probably beat most of the runners in that race a few weeks after finishing UTMB.

Indeed, but even with all these disclaimers, I think the result is somewhat telling.
This is an elite marathoner that run a relatively short trail race against a not very strong field (to put it mildly). Yet, he finished in 52nd place, one hour from the winner. This is the equivalent result of running a 3+ hour marathon.
If an ultra runner shows up to Grandma's marathon and finishes 52nd in 3:05, would you think that he could be an elite marathoner with a some specific training and a bit more rest?

How can you call this your vocation and be blatantly uninformed on events in the sport?

40k not an ultra…..so