the marathon is almost certainly going to be the most difficult for him. I think his training would have to change at least a little bit for that distance, whereas right now he's equipped to take the 10K and get close in the half. the marathon is a different beast and that record is insane
Sure thing but regarding the marathon we are probably looking at 8-9 years down the line. Plenty of time to adjust the training. I would also rank the marathon as the hardest one, just above the 1500/Mile.
Lets assume that he gets around to giving each event a real honest shot. I think best case scenario he misses out on the steeple and marathon. The steeple is just such a technical event and would take time to really nail it (yes, I know he's done it before, but its been 7 years since he last raced it). The marathon I think requires a bigger shift in training than he will be able to manage.
The bigger issue here though is that he doesn't have enough time to get them all. Having lost the 1500m in Paris, I expect he'll be giving it another shot in LA 4 years from now. I don't know if his ego will allow him to move on from that event until he has gold in hand, regardless of whether he snags the WR before then.
So that precludes him from making any real attempts at any events over 5K until 2029 at the absolute earliest. At that point he'll be 28 give or take, and (assuming he's gotten 1500m through 5000m) he will still have the 10K, HM, and marathon left. Races that are conducive to WR attempts (conditions, timing, competition) don't happen often, not necessarily even every year. So I think its unlikely he's able to line up each event within those constraints.
Also, while age is less of an issue for 10K and up, the longevity of his brothers (or lack thereof) don't bode well for his ability to keep training at a high enough level to get WRs in those longer events.
This isn't to say he's not capable of getting all of them, I think he absolutely is (barring the steeple and marathon maybe). So he's not necessarily delusional. But I think from a practical standpoint its just not likely.
Lets assume that he gets around to giving each event a real honest shot. I think best case scenario he misses out on the steeple and marathon. The steeple is just such a technical event and would take time to really nail it (yes, I know he's done it before, but its been 7 years since he last raced it). The marathon I think requires a bigger shift in training than he will be able to manage.
The bigger issue here though is that he doesn't have enough time to get them all. Having lost the 1500m in Paris, I expect he'll be giving it another shot in LA 4 years from now. I don't know if his ego will allow him to move on from that event until he has gold in hand, regardless of whether he snags the WR before then.
So that precludes him from making any real attempts at any events over 5K until 2029 at the absolute earliest. At that point he'll be 28 give or take, and (assuming he's gotten 1500m through 5000m) he will still have the 10K, HM, and marathon left. Races that are conducive to WR attempts (conditions, timing, competition) don't happen often, not necessarily even every year. So I think its unlikely he's able to line up each event within those constraints.
Also, while age is less of an issue for 10K and up, the longevity of his brothers (or lack thereof) don't bode well for his ability to keep training at a high enough level to get WRs in those longer events.
This isn't to say he's not capable of getting all of them, I think he absolutely is (barring the steeple and marathon maybe). So he's not necessarily delusional. But I think from a practical standpoint its just not likely.
I follow some, but not all of this. I don't think he'll be bound to the LA'28 1500 at all - the bigger issue is breaking the 1500/mile WR's to begin with. When/if he does it frees him up for the 5/10/possibly steeple (if he remains interested). The half and marathon can come later, but of all these races, I think the marathon will be the unlikeliest. To my knowledge only 2 men in history > 6' tall have held that record (Clayton/Tergat), and Jingy is 6'1". Tergat was the same but only 140ish #, whereas Jingy looks 150ish at minimum. Power/weight ratio is significant factor that I'm not sure he can overcome in the marathon, at least as far as WRs are concerned. There's a reason marathons are dominated by 5' 5-9", 115-30 # types.
Lets assume that he gets around to giving each event a real honest shot. I think best case scenario he misses out on the steeple and marathon. The steeple is just such a technical event and would take time to really nail it (yes, I know he's done it before, but its been 7 years since he last raced it). The marathon I think requires a bigger shift in training than he will be able to manage.
The bigger issue here though is that he doesn't have enough time to get them all. Having lost the 1500m in Paris, I expect he'll be giving it another shot in LA 4 years from now. I don't know if his ego will allow him to move on from that event until he has gold in hand, regardless of whether he snags the WR before then.
So that precludes him from making any real attempts at any events over 5K until 2029 at the absolute earliest. At that point he'll be 28 give or take, and (assuming he's gotten 1500m through 5000m) he will still have the 10K, HM, and marathon left. Races that are conducive to WR attempts (conditions, timing, competition) don't happen often, not necessarily even every year. So I think its unlikely he's able to line up each event within those constraints.
Also, while age is less of an issue for 10K and up, the longevity of his brothers (or lack thereof) don't bode well for his ability to keep training at a high enough level to get WRs in those longer events.
This isn't to say he's not capable of getting all of them, I think he absolutely is (barring the steeple and marathon maybe). So he's not necessarily delusional. But I think from a practical standpoint its just not likely.
I follow some, but not all of this. I don't think he'll be bound to the LA'28 1500 at all - the bigger issue is breaking the 1500/mile WR's to begin with. When/if he does it frees him up for the 5/10/possibly steeple (if he remains interested). The half and marathon can come later, but of all these races, I think the marathon will be the unlikeliest. To my knowledge only 2 men in history > 6' tall have held that record (Clayton/Tergat), and Jingy is 6'1". Tergat was the same but only 140ish #, whereas Jingy looks 150ish at minimum. Power/weight ratio is significant factor that I'm not sure he can overcome in the marathon, at least as far as WRs are concerned. There's a reason marathons are dominated by 5' 5-9", 115-30 # types.
I get your point, but I do believe Jakob is only 2 inches taller than Kiptum. He'll also probably shave off some weight if he transitions fully to the marathon.
I follow some, but not all of this. I don't think he'll be bound to the LA'28 1500 at all - the bigger issue is breaking the 1500/mile WR's to begin with. When/if he does it frees him up for the 5/10/possibly steeple (if he remains interested). The half and marathon can come later, but of all these races, I think the marathon will be the unlikeliest. To my knowledge only 2 men in history > 6' tall have held that record (Clayton/Tergat), and Jingy is 6'1". Tergat was the same but only 140ish #, whereas Jingy looks 150ish at minimum. Power/weight ratio is significant factor that I'm not sure he can overcome in the marathon, at least as far as WRs are concerned. There's a reason marathons are dominated by 5' 5-9", 115-30 # types.
I get your point, but I do believe Jakob is only 2 inches taller than Kiptum. He'll also probably shave off some weight if he transitions fully to the marathon.
"Only 2 inches taller" every inch over 5 foot is worth roughly 5-6 lbs - so 10-12 lbs. That's significant in a game of margins
How do we know it’s those 10 he’s referring to, especially when the 2 mile is a WB, not a WR? His three current WRs are 1500i, 2000, and 3000. You can get to 10 WR (not WB) categories by dropping steeple, HM, and marathon and adding indoor 1500, 3000, and 5000.
He is delusional, Joshua Cheptegei has ran the fastest 5000 and 10000 ever, is shorter and lighter than Ingebrigsten, and even a hack like Brett Robinson, who spends his time making dumb podcasts, has ran faster over the marathon than Cheptegei.
In this article Ingebrigsten admits that the monotony of easy runs sometimes get the better of him. That is not good for someone who thinks they can get the marathon world record, because marathon training will be a lot more monotonous.
He also says that he has never ran more than 20km, which is how far his long runs are, and this article was published in 2023.
To excel at the marathon he will need to run longer long runs, and continuous tempo runs, not just thresh intervals, he will need to do things like 20k at MP and longer runs at 90% MP. I'm sure Chep was running more than 20k in his long run when he got the 5k/10k records, but he still hasn't ran a good marathon yet.
He hasn't even ran a 5000 faster than 12:48 yet, which I do believe he could get the WR in that event, but how soon is he going to run a 10000 (on the track).
marathon wr for Jakob = delusion, and Jakob = delusional tatted narcissist
It wont ever happen. He's been training hard since he was a child,and all that wear and tear will sooner or later come back to bite him. He already gets injured,and sick.How long before a career ending injury ends him?
I get your point, but I do believe Jakob is only 2 inches taller than Kiptum. He'll also probably shave off some weight if he transitions fully to the marathon.
"Only 2 inches taller" every inch over 5 foot is worth roughly 5-6 lbs - so 10-12 lbs. That's significant in a game of margins
^^^Exactly this. We aren't talking about potentially winning a marathon major and/or the Olympics in which tactics can come into play and where his superior closing speed could factor in a fast finish, we're talking about a WR. In which case near perfect genetics for the race distance matter more.
1500: Brussels (if good conditions) will say a lot whether this is truly on the table
Mile: doable, hard
3000: done
5000: almost gauranteed
10000: I think 13:02 is within threshold for him based on his Sound Running result so this is possible but hard
1500i: done
3000i: hard but 7:17 makes this his. He is better than Girma
5000i: should be his if he takes a shot
5k road: should be easy for him
10k road: hard
To round out 10: 1 mile road, 3000S, half marathon, and other indoor records (10k easiest [would be a training session], mile, 2 mile)
That's the list if you don't want to count "world best" distances. Agree that marathon is not on the table - it's a different sport. But plenty of events to have a chance at 10 WR. It would be wild to have so many concurrently
I think we'll see a lot of attempts in the 2026 down year
Lets assume that he gets around to giving each event a real honest shot. I think best case scenario he misses out on the steeple and marathon. The steeple is just such a technical event and would take time to really nail it (yes, I know he's done it before, but its been 7 years since he last raced it). The marathon I think requires a bigger shift in training than he will be able to manage.
The bigger issue here though is that he doesn't have enough time to get them all. Having lost the 1500m in Paris, I expect he'll be giving it another shot in LA 4 years from now. I don't know if his ego will allow him to move on from that event until he has gold in hand, regardless of whether he snags the WR before then.
So that precludes him from making any real attempts at any events over 5K until 2029 at the absolute earliest. At that point he'll be 28 give or take, and (assuming he's gotten 1500m through 5000m) he will still have the 10K, HM, and marathon left. Races that are conducive to WR attempts (conditions, timing, competition) don't happen often, not necessarily even every year. So I think its unlikely he's able to line up each event within those constraints.
Also, while age is less of an issue for 10K and up, the longevity of his brothers (or lack thereof) don't bode well for his ability to keep training at a high enough level to get WRs in those longer events.
This isn't to say he's not capable of getting all of them, I think he absolutely is (barring the steeple and marathon maybe). So he's not necessarily delusional. But I think from a practical standpoint its just not likely.
When Jakob ran the steeple as a 16 years old his technique sucked so much that he lost several seconds on each lap. Despite that, steeple was the event he qualified to the WC in, easily and in his first try (a 8.26 win). I therefore think he can break the WR with some hurdle training. -And it helps that he has done a 7.17 in the flat, on a warm day, with wind gusts and a fast last lap…
The other long distances: You pose that he may come into a situation where he is 29 years old, or more, before he can attack them. - A too high age? -We don’t know; doesn’t have to be a problem at all..!
How do we know it’s those 10 he’s referring to, especially when the 2 mile is a WB, not a WR? His three current WRs are 1500i, 2000, and 3000. You can get to 10 WR (not WB) categories by dropping steeple, HM, and marathon and adding indoor 1500, 3000, and 5000.
Because that Jakob when directly asked has confirmed that steeple, HM and marathon are on his list…
