Warholm proves Hurdles are a joke

Not fast enough for regular 100m so let's throw an obstacle course in the mix and hope only slower 100m runners compete

You might want to check Rai Benjamin’s flat sprint PRs.

10.03

19.99

for the lazy

Warholm isn't as quick as he was a few years ago. Remember back then, people were saying he could scare 10.0x for 100m and low 20.x, maybe break the 43 second barrier. He wasn't that fast, but he was definitely faster than 10.47

ok? fast guy sucks at jumping over things?

maybe he could have got near low 44 flat then. 43 no chance.

Comparing a 400 m hurdler to 100 m sprinter is like comparing an 800 m to a 5K runner.

He tweaked a hamstring in the race. I went back and saw him grabbing at his left hammy at the end of the race. It's why he didn't race hurdles today. Given his 200 and 400 times, he's certainly capable of faster than 10.47.

proves that 400m H has an aerobic technique component.

10.4 fat

is

9.5 on the fly.

Like Ed Moses, he's lost flat speed because he's focused on extending his stride to hit 13s in the 400mh. All things being equal the one who takes the fewest strides wins. You have to be careful of diminishing returns, though. With 10.47, he is at the limit. Rai B knows it.

Warholm has always been robotic, dating to when I first saw him during a multi event at an U18 championships. That mechanical approach suits 400 hurdles but I've never understood why it's ignored when he attempts other events. He always looks like a boxy 400 hurdler, regardless if it's a flat 400, indoor 400 or yesterday's 100.

It's remarkable that his peak was as high as it was. In Tokyo he timed and executed that transition from 13 to 15 steps on hurdle 10 better than any race prior of subsequent. He was never going to defeat Benjamin unless he regained acceleration over that barrier.

Nah. 25 year old Warholm from Tokyo 2021 runs the 100m in 10.25 - 10.35 easily.

He is evidently not in his prime anymore(at least this season, as his seasons best is 46.7, his slowest since 2020 if we ignore the 2022 season where he was injured). Could probably still run 10.3-high if he wants earlier in the season when he focuses on speed and not speed endurance/strength, but he's not going sub 10.3 anymore I think. He's almost 29 now.

But regardless, the hurdles are not a joke lol. Rai Benjamin is a 10 flat, sub 20 guy and could probably run if he focused on the 400m.

right.

they should have made the race best 2 out of three.

do it again and add in the long jump.

will they jump 24 or 26 ft?

And 44.20 for open 400. Most of those were from early in the season, he could run faster if he peaked for those events.

huh? sub 46 over hurdles is a joke? when was the last time you cracked 50 sec on the flat? ever?

For Warholm now - 10.47 is worth about a 45.4 400m for him, so a co-efficient of 1.3 off of a 46.7 400H. Back in 2021 with his 45.94 400H, could likely have run 44.6 (actual 44.87) and so 10.27 - 10.35 for 100m.

I'm still so incredibly confused why everyone on here keeps trashing a wind legal, non-specifically-trained 10.47. On one hand I immediately have an urge to belligerently attack about "wElL whAtS YOur pR, iTs NoT lIKe YoU cOUld EvEr rUn SUb-10.5", and I DI still feel that way.

But, there are other tacts for contextualizing things. Like, for example, I never actually broke the five minute mile. And I still have a kind of respect for the achievement, as a result. What if I had seen Bolt race a middle schooler for some charity event in his prime and he either struggled, or missed, breaking five minutes for a mile in the "race"? It wouldn't have had one IOTA of an impact on his other achievements.

Now, huge difference in events in the Bolt hypothetical, I grant you. However, none of you seem to grasp just how DIFFERENTLY training for a 400 (or perhaps even more so, the 400 HURDLES) is to training for a 100. They have damn near entirely different needs, and you can see that just off watching how BOTH Warholm and Duplantis got out of the blocks. They got out OK, but they BOTH lacked a real POP and extension out of the blocks that hardened 100 guys strive and train for. And when you actually consider for that, then their abilities to touch 10.3 and 10.4 still are actually all the more impressive.

Frankly, Duplantis probably trains a little more specifically for that pop and had better access to it for this race compared to Warholm. But even HE still didn't have it in spades out of the blocks. He got out clean, but certainly not explosively. That might also have to do with skill at the blocks.

I don't think you can truly have that pop out of the blocks when you've been training to optimize your 400/400h all year. There's a lot of talk about Benjamin and his flat sprint PRs, but if he had shown up there with Warholm and Duplantis, not only do I think his 10.03 might have only translated to a mid 10.2 with wind changes and such, but more than likely he would have been even slower after dedicated peaking, and taking down his rival, for his first gold at the 400 hurdles. Maybe he still beats Duplantis, but no way he touches 10.03 there, and it may have ended up closer that you guys would be willing to accept.

The fact is, 10.47 ain't half bad in and of itself. Get over yourselves.

So what does that make you?

Warholm has won two European Indoor golds in the 400 and one World Indoor silver in the 400. The fact that he can beat 400 meter specialists in his second-best event (the flat 400) means hurdlers are not a joke.