I think since Peter Rono in 1988, only two Olympic 1500m gold medalists have gone on to lose their next two races - Centro in 2016, and Hocker in 2024.
Whose gold do you consider the flukiest?
I think since Peter Rono in 1988, only two Olympic 1500m gold medalists have gone on to lose their next two races - Centro in 2016, and Hocker in 2024.
Whose gold do you consider the flukiest?
Neither
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When after his Olympics was Rono's next two races, and when after their Olympics were Centro's and Hocker's? How soon, where, against whom?
None. They all won fair and square.
Probably Hocker. You can at least chalk Centro's up to strategy. I don't see Hocker every touching that performance again.
Hole Blocker wrote:
I think since Peter Rono in 1988, only two Olympic 1500m gold medalists have gone on to lose their next two races - Centro in 2016, and Hocker in 2024.
Whose gold do you consider the flukiest?
Centro's was flukier. Who would have ever thought the race would play out like that, or that no one could ever move around him?
Hocker's race went exactly as anticipated. Only shock was that his kick was there in a fast race, twice even.
Both well earned.
Hole Blocker wrote:
I think since Peter Rono in 1988, only two Olympic 1500m gold medalists have gone on to lose their next two races - Centro in 2016, and Hocker in 2024.
Whose gold do you consider the flukiest?
Centro had medaled at worlds before Rio, and nearly medaled in London in 2012. You could never call his win a fluke, even if the way the race played out was surprising.
It's too soon to say if Hocker's was a fluke, but it seems pretty unlikely. Whether he won any regular season (read:meaningless) races since Paris has nothing to do with it. It more so depends on how he does at worlds and Olympics going forward.
you sound like the kinda weirdo that says certain championships should have asterisks
sanchobaile wrote:
Centro had medaled at worlds before Rio, and nearly medaled in London in 2012. You could never call his win a fluke, even if the way the race played out was surprising.
It's too soon to say if Hocker's was a fluke, but it seems pretty unlikely. Whether he won any regular season (read:meaningless) races since Paris has nothing to do with it. It more so depends on how he does at worlds and Olympics going forward.
Diamond League races against the others that are also among the best in the world are not meaningless. Getting 3rd at Zurich isn't meaningless. I promise no one has ever run 3:27 as a fluke.
Hole Blocker wrote:
I think since Peter Rono in 1988, only two Olympic 1500m gold medalists have gone on to lose their next two races - Centro in 2016, and Hocker in 2024.
Whose gold do you consider the flukiest?
I wish I could have a lucky little fluke and run the fastest 1500m time ever run at the olympic games.
No such thing as a championship fluke. There were at least 30 other runners qualified with the A standard that could’ve won. Same goes with any sport.
Neither, that would be Jakob's Tokyo.
Centro has never finished top 3 in a stacked DL in his life. Hocker just did that twice after the highest achievement of his life. Hocker ran an Olympic record too so that is no way a fluke.
Neither are flukes but both did benefit from the favorites running poor tactical races. The difference is that Kiprop very likely wins 2016 if he puts himself in better position and doesn't get cut off by Makhloufi at the bell, while I don't think there was much of anything Jakob could've done to beat Hocker closing sub 40 in a 3:27 race. Hocker probably partied pretty extensively afterwards, which would be why he isn't in that form currently.
Sledge_Hammer wrote:
Neither, that would be Jakob's Tokyo.
I suppose you could argue it was a little lucky in that if it wasn't for Covid, Tim would almost certainly have won in 2020, and instead he paced Jakob to gold in 2021.
Not even a question, hands down Centro. Winning gold with a sub 3:28 olympic record is no fluke. 3:50 on the other hand? Lmao
Flower Boy wrote:
None. They all won fair and square.
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NOT A VERY SMART QUESTION. Who really cares if you lose your next two or three races of the same year if you win OLYMPIC 1500m🥇 GOLD?
How many gold medalists since Rono ran multiple races against top elite competition in the month after their Olympic win? Perhaps aggressive scheduling following their peak race is a factor with Centro and Hocker here.
Hole Blocker wrote:
I think since Peter Rono in 1988, only two Olympic 1500m gold medalists have gone on to lose their next two races - Centro in 2016, and Hocker in 2024.
Whose gold do you consider the flukiest?
To be honest, they’re all 1-hit wonders. Jakob included. The only guy in recent years to repeat a WC or Oly is Asbel… and we all know about that one…. 1500m is a hard race to dominate without PEDs.