(MISQUOTE) Jakob responds: - “I will not change my 1500m tactics. Running from the front is the only honorable way to win”.

So I guess it was very honorable of him to *not* run from the front in the 5000m final

So when's he gonna run the 5000m honourably?

I highly doubt he said this, source?

....and humiliated when 3 guys blow past him.

Since he doesn't have a metal, he can share 4th street with Pre.

reinforcing that he's low-iq

but also full of sht as we saw how he raced in the 5000

the only "honorable way to win" is doing so without using drugs/hormones/banned substances

if he was truly clean i find it hard to believe he wouldn't think the same

So he's effectively saying that those who beat him didn't do so "honorably".

Just trust me bro

Well, he did so in WC 2022. In 2023 he was sick. This year I think he thought he had done enough front running (meaning the 1500m), and I think he also thought he couldn’t be too cocky with a possible stellar Gebrhiwet in the field. And he added in the interview that he himself not always runs honourably (for a lot of reasons), although he prefers to… Pretty honest if you ask me.

source? I don't believe he said that.

Somehow I doubt he said this, but if he did, I can't say I'd be that surprised.

Yes, Cole, Josh and Yared didn’t run the final honourably in the ideal meaning of the word! But as always there’s a context:

1. It wasn’t at all their fault, because Jakob didn’t give them any opening to put in their part of the front running work.

2. When you are an underdog you are allowed to act like a parasite. And all three medalists had to be considered to be that before the race, and even after, because in my view (that of course may be wrong) Jakob would have won the race if he had run the first lap a little slower.

3. Jakob himself doesn’t always run his races honourably (which he clearly acknowledged in the interview) -he therefore obviously respects that his competitors not always do neither (especially in this race where the opportunity was closed).

4. There’s a clear danger that Cole, Josh and Yared don’t become the best version of themselves. But my guesses are that at least Cole and Yared understand this, and will put in the necessary lead work (at least when Jakob isn’t in the race) to get themselves honourably prs and times. And even Josh seems to get (as his 3.45 mile showed) that sometimes he must do his part to get out his own potential into times). There are two very clear “fates” that should scare every athlete from not running honourably most of the time (something one have to do to get everything out since one cannot rely on an better athlete to be there and do all the work for you -it take only one single cowardly race on the day of your best shape not to get it all out!): Mo Farah and Steve Ovett. -These two athletes never ran a good race in their whole life (although they raced very well, and Farah even ran two good races in his off event 1500m). So they’re not on my top ten list, but who knows what they could have done if they had tried to run honourably in their top shape! (For their own sake; the times that prove their fitness -I hardly see any fight ln these boards for Mo being the goat, not even the guys who keep saying medals are everything. -A few good times, and he could have changed everything…).

I’m a Jakob fan -but the same applies to him: In my opinion he’s not a proven good 5000m runner -in all three global champs wins his competitors haven’t been on their best. Not near. And champs are clown races (especially the 5000/10000m in hot weather) -Jakob’s best 5000m is his 12.48 DL win that showed some potential..!

Champ races are seldom honest. The real and honourably races are the one with lights and pacers (ideally without, if everybody took their front leading share, but that won’t happen):
Pacers are mimicking competitors that take their share, and are therefore honourably.

Times are everything, champs nothing. But my full respect to Cole Hocker (because he ran a 3.27 in the best possible way given the circumstances that day)…

For whom? For Jakob this statement is obviously false. And if it's just your opinion then who gives a fck, not like you're racing.

I bet he didn't feel too dishonourable when he kicked past Cheruiyot to win gold in Tokyo

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here's the interview. He didn't really say that. You're putting words into his mouth, OP.

In fact, in the interview, I would say he's uncharacteristically humble and said the loss would haunt him for the rest of his life.

He did say he wanted to win in a certain way that is honorable but he never said he would not change his tactics, let alone throwing shade at his competitors.

Jakob talked about this in the 5000 post race press conference. He didn't say it exactly as OP puts it, but some of the pieces are there, and he did say he doesn't do that every time.

here is video. should be time stamped to where JG asks him the question about changing his strategy for the 1500 in the future

I was a better racer myself than a time trailer (sadly). And I give the fck that you give the fck, and that you seem to value the superficial glimmering medals. -It’s like so often in life: A lot of people who values an expensive car, or somebody’s looks, or something other shallow or without core. -Instead of the real thing: What an athlete shows over time, and at his best….

And the lack of ability to understand context and the larger picture.

And when it comes to Jakob -of course he needs the medals. Or else he would be tried to be belittled by guys like you -that’s just how the world is, and he knows it. But just listen to everything’s he is saying as a-whole -clearly not a mind set fare from mine. But yeah -just my opinion…

There's no such thing as honorable or moral victories, only victories. Jakobs only win at the olympics was when he ran in a way that Pre and himself would NOT consider honorable, and his loss was from front running.

I disagree with that mentality, his 5000 was much better, because he won.

And to the people who downvoted my thread about people applauding his tactics in the 1500, this thread is a prime example of people applauding how he ran the 1500.

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That's how the GREATEST 1500m of all time ran Hicham El Guerrouj. Jakob OR Yared definitely need to emulate Hicham's 1500m strategy and every 100m after 700m is faster than the previous 100m. Those are the only two athletes who I THINK could pull it off on a routine basis.

As you know Jakob ran a wide first bend, and paced the first 450m. So what should he have done when Cheruiyot passed him, and put up a very good pace? -Are you aware of your belittling bias here?

And yes, as Jakob clearly says: One cannot always run honourably, but that’s his goal. And clearly no offence against Cole -pretty sure Jakob would have done the exact same thing in his situation…