She seems to have gotten off on a technicality and her friends' words regarding the 3rd missed test in a year. Do people believe she's clean? Genuinely not trolling -- I'm surprised at how little discussion there's been on how she's actually been banned related to doping but just managed to overturn it.
What's the consenus on Gabby Thomas's missed tests a few years back?
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She is sketchy and all her results should have an asterisk.
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most people love a winner, well at least to u r caught. hi Lance, a former American hero.
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I'll give you a straight answer on this because you're probably just going to get a bunch of careless, garbage responses.
Most people on here think 3 missed tests means you're automatically dirty, no matter what proof of no wrongdoing you provide. Anytime you see a post on LRC about Gabby Thomas, expect incoming "whereabouts" jokes.
That said, this has been covered a lot and I think RoJo or somebody provided updates or legit sources that cleared Gabby's name.
Personally, I believe she's legit. I'm probably in the minority on this board, though. It's definitely not a good look. And unfortunately, it's something that's going to follow her around for a very long time.
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Doping thomas? wrote:
She seems to have gotten off on a technicality and her friends' words regarding the 3rd missed test in a year. Do people believe she's clean? Genuinely not trolling -- I'm surprised at how little discussion there's been on how she's actually been banned related to doping but just managed to overturn it.
Her performances over the time period where she had the whereabouts failures were not suspect at all. She didn’t run any great times and didn’t have the huge spike in performance that is the dead giveaway of a doped sprinter. If she was doping she was awful at it.
Her running 21.6’s at trials and then falling off to 21.8’s in the Olympics and World Championships the past couple of years are the oddest parts off her career but that came after the failures. Her performances this year aren’t suspect at all. Consistent and nowhere near her pb’s over 200m. I vote clean.
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MadsMartel wrote:
Doping thomas? wrote:
She seems to have gotten off on a technicality and her friends' words regarding the 3rd missed test in a year. Do people believe she's clean? Genuinely not trolling -- I'm surprised at how little discussion there's been on how she's actually been banned related to doping but just managed to overturn it.
Her performances over the time period where she had the whereabouts failures were not suspect at all. She didn’t run any great times and didn’t have the huge spike in performance that is the dead giveaway of a doped sprinter. If she was doping she was awful at it.
Her running 21.6’s at trials and then falling off to 21.8’s in the Olympics and World Championships the past couple of years are the oddest parts off her career but that came after the failures. Her performances this year aren’t suspect at all. Consistent and nowhere near her pb’s over 200m. I vote clean.
yes, but no one really knows who is clean or not. But she did miss a number of tests which gives the gossip some credibility.
As far as i am concerned, she is clean until proven otherwise, like any other medalist that passes the tests..
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Anabolic agents are going to add bulk. Thomas is, for lack of a better description, very “womanly.”
Agents that distance guys are using and the aforementioned Lance used, EPO & things like blood transfusions/doping, don’t add bulk but obviously aid with aerobic activities. Those PEDs do nothing for sprinters.
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One of the least sus sprinters wrote:
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Anabolic agents are going to add bulk. Thomas is, for lack of a better description, very “womanly.”
Agents that distance guys are using and the aforementioned Lance used, EPO & things like blood transfusions/doping, don’t add bulk but obviously aid with aerobic activities. Those PEDs do nothing for sprinters.
There are three broad classes of performance-enhancing drugs, including those that make athletes stronger, such as testosterone; those that improve endurance, such as EPO (erythropoietin); and stimulants, such as amphetamines, which sharpen an athlete’s focus and can quicken reaction time at the start of a race. An athlete may take these substances by themselves or in conjunction with others.The most powerful banned substance for sprinters, says Conte, who now runs Snac System, an all-natural sports-nutrition company, is EPO. While it is more often associated with improving results for long-distance runners because of its ability to increase oxygen intake, EPO allows sprinters to do more training repetitions and to do them more intensely. “The deeper the training load long-term throughout an off-season, the greater the gains,” Conte says.
As Joyner points out, “One of the things that people fail to recognize about doping in general is that it facilitates harder training.”Victor Conte, of BALCO infamy, disagrees with you. Why do so many people repeat this falsehood? Your only excuse is that you’re young.
Marion Jones, the triple Olympics champion in 2000, who has been dogged by stories concerning drugs in recent years, was last night facing the biggest personal crisis of her life after a positive test for erythropoietin taken at the US championships in Indianapolis in June.131 -
One of the least sus sprinters wrote:
Clean
Anabolic agents are going to add bulk. Thomas is, for lack of a better description, very “womanly.”
Agents that distance guys are using and the aforementioned Lance used, EPO & things like blood transfusions/doping, don’t add bulk but obviously aid with aerobic activities. Those PEDs do nothing for sprinters.
Marion Jones didn't look bulked up. GT is dirty. Three missed whereabouts tests? C'mon! I'd understand 1 but, 3? It's going to be interesting when she gets popped.
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It is dodgy, but she's pretty so everyone's okay with it.
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Is ingebrigtsen clean?
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She's sus af. Should always be referred to as Whereabouts Gabby.
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It is dodgy, but she's pretty so everyone's okay with it.
Tall, pretty, Harvard grad, MSc in epidemiology, Olympic Champ. It'd be an absolute s-show.
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If this was a non western athlete we would t even question it. Dirty.
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It's not just 3 missed tests - it's 3 missed tests in 5 months!
And the 3rd one only got cancelled because her party buddies witnessed (supported by the phone GPS) that she was there at the time but the doorbell never rang. Very convincing.
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What are the details on why the third missed test was dismissed? Everything I've read indicates that she has proven that she was where she said she was going to be (verified by witnesses, and GPS data from her phone) and that the tester was in the wrong place or somehow failed to locate her. While that explanation is pretty vague (maybe someone else knows more), I would expect that the burden of proof for a third missed test has to be very high. The fact that she cleared that burden of proof either indicates that they gave her a pass or that she really didn't miss it. Personally, I find it hard to believe that WADA is letting athletes off easy for a third missed test.
That said, there are two tests that she actually missed and I don't think that has been contested.
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