Why I don’t really care about the Mens 1500m Results despite the top 3 doing really well

Shoes are worth 10s/ lap.

Matt London is the official world record holder if you convert for weight, shoes, and age.

If ifs and buts were fruits and nuts... History will show JI fourth. It will not have an asterisk for leading/pace setting.

Yes obviously, but that doesn’t change anything of what I said.

I’m more interested to know how much time you’ve spent crying today. 😆

This post is so stupid it deserves a 1 week ban.

Like, in the sea of dogsh1t opinions that is LRC, this sails majestically above them.

Timeout. Go sit in corner and think about what you've done.

Shoes are worth 10s/lap for the 1500m, based on what evidence? Doesn’t change anything of what I said. Leading costs you 0.5 seconds/lap which I believe is universally considered to be true here and he ran the first bend wide, care to contest any of those points?

Lots of dumb threads on Letsrun. Snowflakes, you may have this weeks dumbest thread. Congrats.

The point of racing is to get to the finish line first not to run the dumbest race and finish 4th.

None? I’m literally just pointing out a fantastic performance somebody performed in the race? Do you actually want to refute me or just call me names lol.

It’s the dumbest race yes, like I said, but still the most impressive.

Call me crazy but winning medals is more impressive to me.

And nothing you said will change the fact JI wasn't on the podium. If his performance impresses you, fine, but history will be more impressed by those who medaled.

As an aside, it always amazes me how athletes/teams can shake off losses/poor performances more easily than their fanboys can.

Truly a great reply, thanks for changing my mind.

I don’t agree with this. Yes he is not on the podium and that is a massive disappointment, but anybody that watches the race can see what I am saying.

It always amazes me how quick people are to judge 1st place finishes but not even consider the circumstances of the race, like any smart person would.

Hocker had the most impressive performance due to the expectations and obviously the fact that a win came with an olympic gold medal.

But, in a vacuum, jakobs run would have been “more impressive.” If this were some random diamond league, what jakob did would have been more impressive.

3:28.2 leading the entire way is a stronger showing than 3:27.6 with a pacer for 1400+ meters. Does any of that matter? No. He lost. But freaking out over this take like it’s completely asinine is stupid.

The only thing from the original post I take significant issue with is calling it “one of the greatest achievements in athletics history.” One of the greatest shows of strength? Sure, he ran over a second faster than anyone else ever has from the front. Is 4th at the olympics in any context an all time great achievement? No

You aren’t crazy but can you elaborate on why I’m wrong…?

True Facts of the 2020s.

I must ask> So your point here is that the guy who got 4th somehow performed better than the 3 guys who beat him because he went out at WR pace and they just followed? Is that it then?

If so, then how far did he have to go at WR pace to get him that nod? Was it exactly where they passed him or would you have given him that 'win' at the 800? Or 900m? 1100M? Where exactly?

Everyone who stepped on that line knew the goal was to win the race. Not a sole was thinking "damn, if I can just run 1500-X meters at WR pace even if I don't actually win everyone will say my race was the most impressive!! Yep, that's what I'll do then."

Because winning took both physical greatness and mental greatness. Rabbiting took just one of those.