I know most people will make fun of Gabe for running 14:17 this weekend, but my question, concerns Gabe and his PR's.
Is he the only person to run 1:46 in the 800 and run under 2:20 in the marathon? How many other people have done this if any? Americans?
Thanks,
~Pondering
Geb. Possibly Tergat. As for Americans,what was Paul Cummings PR in the 800? I don't think he ran 1:46, but I'm pretty sure he was under 1:50.
Pondering wrote:
I know most people will make fun of Gabe for running 14:17 this weekend, but my question, concerns Gabe and his PR's.
Is he the only person to run 1:46 in the 800 and run under 2:20 in the marathon? How many other people have done this if any? Americans?
Thanks,
~Pondering
Rod Dixon's range
800 meters in 1:47.6.,
1,500 meters in 3:33.80
mile in 3:53.62
5K in 13:17,
10K in 28:10
marathon in 2:08.59.
PC ran 1:49, I believe.
Not to quibble, but his marathon was also on an aided (downhill) course.
i believe 2003 paris marathon winner mike rotich had a range of like 1:45ish to 2:06:33.
Link wrote:
Geb.
Possibly Tergat.
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Geb hasn't. Tergat hasn't.
The only Americans I can think ofr who have run under 1:47 and could go 2:20, but haven't, are Mike Slack and Steve Scott.
Zat0pek wrote:
Not to quibble, but his marathon was also on an aided (downhill) course.
Enough with this bullshit. CIM is a slower course than both Chicago and Berlin for sure. And there were no rabbits that day, Gabe was out in front by himself for the first 19.
If I recall Derderian's history of the Boston Marathon correctly, Ibrahim Hussein had 47 400m speed. I don't have an 800M PR for him. His marathon PR is 2:08:14 though
Rod Dixon's 800M PR is only 1:47.6 but his marathon PR is 2:08:59. I imagine if Rod had ever concentrated on the 800 he could have broken 1:46.
Zat0pek wrote:
Not to quibble, but his marathon was also on an aided (downhill) course.
You are quibbling.
CIM is a fair course it has much less of an elevation drop than Boston.
I'm a little surprised about Geb. 3:31 indoors certainly indicates he could be in the ballpark. What is his official PR?
Zat0pek wrote:
Not to quibble, but his marathon was also on an aided (downhill) course.
Didn't he do it at CIM? I thought course was just relatively flat, not net down hill? You are saying it was "wind-aided"?
Bryce wrote:
Zat0pek wrote:Not to quibble, but his marathon was also on an aided (downhill) course.
Didn't he do it at CIM? I thought course was just relatively flat, not net down hill? You are saying it was "wind-aided"?
Like most canny race directors the man in charge at CIM has a very compressed course profile on his website making it look like CIM is a screaming fast downhill course from start to finish. In reality its mostly flat and rolling with 90% of the small elevation drop in the first 2-3 miles a bit like Boston.
I do not know. It is a good question.
That is certainly an impressive range.
Thanks for posting Gabe.
Bryce wrote:
Didn't he do it at CIM? I thought course was just relatively flat, not net down hill? You are saying it was "wind-aided"?
It's a pretty significant net downhill. Not as crazy downhill as Austin, Steamtown, St. George, or Tucson, but nowhere close to the standards for a record-quality course. What's it worth in time? Who knows? I'd guess something over one minute, but probably less than two minutes, assuming that there are no strong tailwinds or headwinds.
His brother is a buddy of mine and he's run something like 145 so i would assume Ibrahim is in the ballpark with that.dude-
Average_Joe wrote:
If I recall Derderian's history of the Boston Marathon correctly, Ibrahim Hussein had 47 400m speed. I don't have an 800M PR for him. His marathon PR is 2:08:14 though
guys the question wasnt who could have done it...the question was it gabe the only one who HAS done it
i cant think of any other americans (or anyone for that matter with the possible exception of rotich) but if theres someone who ran under 1:47 and under 2:20 in certified races
if hes the only one, then that is impressive
Average_Joe wrote:
If I recall Derderian's history of the Boston Marathon correctly, Ibrahim Hussein had 47 400m speed. I don't have an 800M PR for him. His marathon PR is 2:08:14 though
Rod Dixon's 800M PR is only 1:47.6 but his marathon PR is 2:08:59. I imagine if Rod had ever concentrated on the 800 he could have broken 1:46.
I imagine gabe didn't focus all his time on the 800 either. Rod Dixon is awsome but he is done setting PR's these days. Gabe is still competing so watch out!
When did Jennings run a 2:20 marathon?
I wouldn't be surprised if Peter Snell ran a 2:20 in a long training run. I doubt many 800 meter runners with Jenning's speed will gravitate toward the marathon.