FEMKE BOL: sub 51 European Record, why it doesn't mean VERY much

VIPAM wrote:

Don't get me wrong she negotiated 400 hurdles in under 51 seconds no doubt about it. The reason why it's not as significant is that she barely dipped under 51 with what a 50.96 at favorable. Altitude.

Now look at the rest of the results from 100m to 400m ALMOST every winner posted a personal best and some very significant. In the 100 hurdles two woman ran lifetime best, 100 and 200m a 20 year old ran his first sub 10 and sub 20, 400m flat female winner another lifetime best. The condition of Altitude significantly INCREASED their performance which NONE of them had been close to at sea level.

Even Femke slashed her personal best by .50 seconds due to the altitude; however, Paris Olympics aren't at altitude, my friends and Sydney just ran her WR at sea level this year.🤔. I like Femke but let's not make more of this than an AIDED personal best.

Ruxton Towers XC wrote:

These kind of "conversions" are specious.

People of your mind-set could also argue that SML ran great in Eugene because she was on the greatest track in the world competing for a national title. If you take away the Hayward magic and take away the national title and Olympic spot, she is not getting the WR. Plus her "record" was only a tiny fraction of a second better than the old record. So it doesn't really count as a "new" record.

That is what you sound like when you say someone ran a wind-legal time but it doesn't count.

vipam so smart wrote:

Wow, you surely must be the first person to find out about the altitude of this meet if you felt the need to create your own thread instead of using the existing one.

Besides that: Not a single other athlete in Bol's heat broke her PB. Only one of those athletes managed to run a SB. Obviously a lot of life time bests should be expected in a meet four weeks out from the Olympics at very good overall conditions.

vipam so smart wrote:

Wow, you surely must be the first person to find out about the altitude of this meet if you felt the need to create your own thread instead of using the existing one.

Besides that: Not a single other athlete in Bol's heat broke her PB. Only one of those athletes managed to run a SB. Obviously a lot of life time bests should be expected in a meet four weeks out from the Olympics at very good overall conditions.

Going Bol-ing wrote:

NYDCRunner1 wrote:

That's really idiotic coming from you. Talk about making specious comments. Would you also state that Faith's 1500M new time doesn't count as a new record as it is only a tiny fraction better than her old record? How about DuPlantis' WRs? Records that he's increasing by 1cm every time.

Altitude does play a huge factor in performances. Heck, the WA even recognizes this and places an *A next to such times.

And on the WA site there is no 'A' next to her time.

vipam so smart wrote:

vipam so smart wrote:

Wow, you surely must be the first person to find out about the altitude of this meet if you felt the need to create your own thread instead of using the existing one.

Besides that: Not a single other athlete in Bol's heat broke her PB. Only one of those athletes managed to run a SB. Obviously a lot of life time bests should be expected in a meet four weeks out from the Olympics at very good overall conditions.

Correction: Three weeks out of course

VIPAM wrote:

Don't get me wrong she negotiated 400 hurdles in under 51 seconds no doubt about it. The reason why it's not as significant is that she barely dipped under 51 with what a 50.96 at favorable. Altitude.

Now look at the rest of the results from 100m to 400m ALMOST every winner posted a personal best and some very significant. In the 100 hurdles two woman ran lifetime best, 100 and 200m a 20 year old ran his first sub 10 and sub 20, 400m flat female winner another lifetime best. The condition of Altitude significantly INCREASED their performance which NONE of them had been close to at sea level.

Even Femke slashed her personal best by .50 seconds due to the altitude; however, Paris Olympics aren't at altitude, my friends and Sydney just ran her WR at sea level this year.🤔. I like Femke but let's not make more of this than an AIDED personal best.

Awsi Dooger wrote:

Bol doesn't cherry pick her races. She runs everywhere. Just last week when she didn't break 50 at FBK Games in lousy wet conditions the Sydney fans came out in full force in YouTube comments and all over Twitter, essentially laughing at Bol while using their familiar desperate line that Sydney is 2 seconds faster.

No, today was not a fully representative time. Sydney remains a huge favorite. But Bol has earned something like this on her resume. Sydney never risks anything, like flying to Europe in midseason and facing Bol on her turf. When Sydney tried that last year at 400 flat she ended up losing to Paulino.