Drew Griffith sub 4 3:57!!!

I wonder why we see so many top performances lately. Especially from people who drop a ton of time one year to the next. Didn't he only run 4:08 last year? Which is the exact same time differential as going from 10.6 to 9.89

EPO

Downvotes but no response.

As I've posted before on other threads, I don't know if he (or any other top HS'er) is doping, but there is virtually no testing and the upside is very high - $, NIL and/or acceptance into certain colleges. So I'd take every performance with a bit of a grain of salt.

The ND commit ran 3:57.72 for the win at Festival of Miles, ahead of Clay Shively (NAU commit), 4:00.02, regrettably the second time (indoor) he came extremely close to breaking four this year.

He was less than 2 seconds slower than Ben Veatch (winner of the professional mile)

And his time would have placed him in 7th in that race, but who knows, maybe he would have run faster with competition, or he would have been boxed in in the crowd

Armstrong why do you follow the sport? You say literally everyone dopes. Is every sub 5 guy a doper? I know you cant but does that mean everyone else is?

Probably because 10.6 is a different world from 9.89? Pros run 3:55, 3:57, sometimes even 4:00 on a bad day or in a heavy base phase. No pro sprinter will ever run 10.69 unless theyre a woman lmao

Shively has a massive upsode. i can see him being a super star at NAU.

What?

First, 4:08 is an excellent time for a junior. You're acting like he can a 4:50 last year.

Second, that program has a history of producing excellent athletes. Before Griffith, there was CJ Singleton who Drew will join at Notre Dame. Coaching and role modeling is important.

Third, although I can't say Butler is the nicest part of the Pittsburgh area, I know enough people who know the family who will tell you that in addition to being wonderful people they're also at a level of financial comfort that there is no specific need for him to bend rules for financial gain.

Fourth, and this is obvious, shut up you hating ass loser. Go touch grass.

I have no idea whether he's doping or not - I'd assume he isn't because I don't think over half of American top distance high school runners are doping

But your 3rd point is a lie. I don't want to get into an argument about what "financial comfort" means in rural Pennsylvania vs NYC/SF, but from what I saw (attended private school in a tier 2.5 - think borderline 2/3 - city) the people from the wealthiest backgrounds would do anything to get in. Just look at varsity blues and seeing all the LA actors / actresses paying $500k+ to bribe coaches

Surely you're joking?

Maybe he meant upsude. No, probably upsade! Or upsede. It's really hard to figure it out.

To shush is douchey.

That is a false equivalence.