Another crooked world junior title stolen by a Kenyan athlete, this time for blood doping rather than age cheating, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was also age cheating, considering his performance curve. He is supposed to have been born March 3, 1998, so it was at a supposed age of 18 that he ran his lifetime best in the 5000m in 13:18.98 in 2016. In the 10000m, he ran his best of 26:55 in 2019 at 21. Two very unlikely ages to pr at 5 and 10k. However, his lifetime best performance was likely 2022 when he ran 58:30 for the half shortly before his "23rd" birthday.
Another crooked world junior title stolen by a Kenyan athlete, this time for blood doping rather than age cheating, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was also age cheating, considering his performance curve. He is supposed to have been born March 3, 1998, so it was at a supposed age of 18 that he ran his lifetime best in the 5000m in 13:18.98 in 2016. In the 10000m, he ran his best of 26:55 in 2019 at 21. Two very unlikely ages to pr at 5 and 10k. However, his lifetime best performance was likely 2022 when he ran 58:30 for the half shortly before his "23rd" birthday.
Not sure there’s much of a reason to believe he was age-doping. He ran 13:21/27:05 at altitude in 2021, which are unambiguously better than an 13:18.98 and his best years were in 2019, 2021 and 2022. If you read through the AIU piece it appears every time he returned to Kenya he engaged in EPO/Blood Doping, what have you as he prepared for Trials/major performances. This was uncovered as when he was in Japan his scores would return to normal from my interpretation of it.
Another crooked world junior title stolen by a Kenyan athlete, this time for blood doping rather than age cheating, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was also age cheating, considering his performance curve. He is supposed to have been born March 3, 1998, so it was at a supposed age of 18 that he ran his lifetime best in the 5000m in 13:18.98 in 2016. In the 10000m, he ran his best of 26:55 in 2019 at 21. Two very unlikely ages to pr at 5 and 10k. However, his lifetime best performance was likely 2022 when he ran 58:30 for the half shortly before his "23rd" birthday.
Not sure there’s much of a reason to believe he was age-doping. He ran 13:21/27:05 at altitude in 2021, which are unambiguously better than an 13:18.98 and his best years were in 2019, 2021 and 2022. If you read through the AIU piece it appears every time he returned to Kenya he engaged in EPO/Blood Doping, what have you as he prepared for Trials/major performances. This was uncovered as when he was in Japan his scores would return to normal from my interpretation of it.
So is it true whether he was training with Kipchoge at all?
Yes...this is going to be a good one to discus (rekrunner?). I just started reading the disciplinary tribunal hearing. There are a whopping 40 blood samples taken! I'm seeing a couple of very high OFF-scores (135!). It looks like Kwemoi's primary defense was altitude as the cause of the anomalies (who have thought. Lol)
So is it true whether he was training with Kipchoge at all?
He split his time in Japan and Kenya, but trained in the camp yes. I won’t speculate on how he conducted his alleged doping regimen because honestly I have no idea.
So is it true whether he was training with Kipchoge at all?
He split his time in Japan and Kenya, but trained in the camp yes. I won’t speculate on how he conducted his alleged doping regimen because honestly I have no idea.
EPO doesn't work on world class Kenyans according to Canova , lol )
Other interesting thing to me is they seem to clearly think his 2016 result was abnormal and suggested an off-cycle from doping. But then they don’t test him for 3 years (1 invalid attempt)? I suppose this was a resource issue at the time, and in todays world hopefully would not happen.
He split his time in Japan and Kenya, but trained in the camp yes. I won’t speculate on how he conducted his alleged doping regimen because honestly I have no idea.
EPO doesn't work on world class Kenyans according to Canova , lol )
Yes...this is going to be a good one to discus (rekrunner?). I just started reading the disciplinary tribunal hearing. There are a whopping 40 blood samples taken! I'm seeing a couple of very high OFF-scores (135!). It looks like Kwemoi's primary defense was altitude as the cause of the anomalies (who have thought. Lol)
Please don't post thinks like this. We know from Radcliffe that talking about it makes it too easy for others to cheat.
Every single significant Kenyan athlete over the past 30 years, and probably also Bahrainian, Algerian, Turkish, Jamaican, and Ethiopian athletes, has been a user.
IMO
Anybody who believes these feats are doable cleanly has never themselves trained up against an honest older WR.
I don’t care what you think of my opinion. Drugs WORK, I have seen it.
Yes...this is going to be a good one to discus (rekrunner?). I just started reading the disciplinary tribunal hearing. There are a whopping 40 blood samples taken! I'm seeing a couple of very high OFF-scores (135!). It looks like Kwemoi's primary defense was altitude as the cause of the anomalies (who have thought. Lol)
Please don't post thinks like this. We know from Radcliffe that talking about it makes it too easy for others to cheat.
Don't post "thinks" like this? Do you mean links?
C'mon man, the Tribunal hearing with the ABP data is public record - it's called transparency.
The panel of anti-doping experts are identified & they go over their findings & conclusions. It's very insightful & informative if you're interested in learning about the hematological module of the ABP.
Other interesting thing to me is they seem to clearly think his 2016 result was abnormal and suggested an off-cycle from doping. But then they don’t test him for 3 years (1 invalid attempt)? I suppose this was a resource issue at the time, and in todays world hopefully would not happen.
Along these same lines, why did it take 40 samples and 7 years to charge him?
I'm also puzzled by the rationale for "aggravating circumstances". a) (many instances over an extended period) is aggravated by the delayed charge, and b) (doping before big competitions) and c) (doping with intent and experts), looks like an ordinary doping regime, rather than aggravated circumstances.
Yes...this is going to be a good one to discus (rekrunner?). I just started reading the disciplinary tribunal hearing. There are a whopping 40 blood samples taken! I'm seeing a couple of very high OFF-scores (135!). It looks like Kwemoi's primary defense was altitude as the cause of the anomalies (who have thought. Lol)
They say altitude is a "mild confounder", with the effects visible in the first few days and weeks (e.g. 7-10 days). 2500m is higher, so will be a less mild confounder. Anything beyond these limits cannot be easily explained by altitude.
It may not have helped here, but points 49 (crucial details of ABP procedure and algorithm not public and cannot be scrutinized) and 54 (no scientific experts available to athletes), gives the AIU a big advantage over the athletes, especially those with poor English skills.
The late charge (after 7 years) also places an unusually high burden on the athlete to provide detailed explanations of events over a 7-year period related to 40 different samples.
As interesting as this ABP data is to you, there is not enough data though to show how his performance was impacted, above and beyond normal training at altitude.
They say altitude is a "mild confounder", with the effects visible in the first few days and weeks (e.g. 7-10 days). 2500m is higher, so will be a less mild confounder. Anything beyond these limits cannot be easily explained by altitude.
It may not have helped here, but points 49 (crucial details of ABP procedure and algorithm not public and cannot be scrutinized) and 54 (no scientific experts available to athletes), gives the AIU a big advantage over the athletes, especially those with poor English skills.
The late charge (after 7 years) also places an unusually high burden on the athlete to provide detailed explanations of events over a 7-year period related to 40 different samples.
As interesting as this ABP data is to you, there is not enough data though to show how his performance was impacted, above and beyond normal training at altitude.
So the system is unfair to the poor Africans because their lack of English skills makes it difficult for them to concoct a suitable lie to explain their persistent cheating?
They say altitude is a "mild confounder", with the effects visible in the first few days and weeks (e.g. 7-10 days). 2500m is higher, so will be a less mild confounder. Anything beyond these limits cannot be easily explained by altitude.
It may not have helped here, but points 49 (crucial details of ABP procedure and algorithm not public and cannot be scrutinized) and 54 (no scientific experts available to athletes), gives the AIU a big advantage over the athletes, especially those with poor English skills.
The late charge (after 7 years) also places an unusually high burden on the athlete to provide detailed explanations of events over a 7-year period related to 40 different samples.
As interesting as this ABP data is to you, there is not enough data though to show how his performance was impacted, above and beyond normal training at altitude.
So the system is unfair to the poor Africans because their lack of English skills makes it difficult for them to concoct a suitable lie to explain their persistent cheating?
Are you aware of the "suitable lies" some native English speaking athletes get away with? Of course you are. But you just hate Kenyans.
Are you aware of the "suitable lies" some native English speaking athletes get away with? Of course you are. But you just hate Kenyans.
Absolutely, but that seems like a weird defence though.
Kenyans cheat, but they're not as good at lying as those pesky Westerners so they can't get away with it. Perhaps something the managers/coaches/stablemasters need to look at for the future?
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